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did anita ever sang the canto version of (ngor kup chun tien yao gor york
wui)this song? I was included in a mps album under anita's name...but when
i listened to it...i kinda didn't sound like anita's voice...
AL
IP: 218.208.242.100
Apr 4th, 2004 - 7:00 PM
Re: I have a date with spring
no i had been listen to this song before but it was not sang by mui jei
the voice such a diffrent
ICQ: answer to ming ming
piccolo
IP: 64.229.134.127
Apr 5th, 2004 - 11:19 PM
Re: I have a date with spring
I have a date with spring was sung by an artist called Lau Nga Lai. I
don't know her english name (alice lau?). Her voice is also low, but of
course, it cannot be compared with Ah Mui's. Nevertheless, it sounds
similar because nice voices like hers and Anita's are so rare in HK where
every artist sounds like a screaming chicken.
) Sigh, I miss Ah Mui.
Woodstock
IP: 218.102.177.201
Apr 30th, 2004 - 7:59 PM
Re: I have a date with spring
Hey, Piccolo!
Sorry that I didn't see you when you left the message here. How are you
doing? If you miss Mui, why not drop by more often? I miss you too, and
miss your jokes and your profound knowledge in many things, especially
your EGG Thesis. I'm so sorry that all our messages were cleared away
automatically as our former package was only limited to 250 messages, I
didn't know it would be cleared away without being notifieded.
Anyway....memory still here...
(now I saved all the old messages to the forum-archives of our website).
Remember you were the Master-in-charge of this Forum? Want to resume the
post, so that I can take a break. Anyway, really hope everything is fine
with you.
BTW, that song belonged to Alice Lau. She is a good singer, not an idol
singer.
Hope you will see my message here! Cheers!
Jason
IP: 218.208.239.150
May 1st, 2004 - 9:21 PM
Re: I have a date with spring
Hi Woodstock, Mind telling us the background and story behind how these
website and forum came about? Give me at least some inspiration for kind
deeds you and Snoopy have done for Anita. Give us international fans
chances to be more appreciative of this forum and how to continue to
maintain harmony and make it a lovely place all the time.
I can say this forum is something a special gift that we cannot take it
for granted. I've seen other forums and I couldn't help much not to be
felt lucky we have such a good forum with good fans here.
Woodstock
IP: 218.103.248.241
May 5th, 2004 - 6:07 AM
Re: I have a date with spring
Jason:
I haven’t forgot about your request. But I was thinking if it is more
appropriate for Snoopy to talk about it. However, it seems that she is
still too tired up with her work, so instead of keep you waiting, I will
say something here. She can always add supplement later as she wishes.
I persuaded her to set up the website as none of the website was set up by
Malaysian fans at that time, but she talked me to do the translation for
her. We know Mui got lots of fans all over the world, and many of them
don’t know English, so they were deprived of updated information on her
in detail. Finally we decided to make it bilingual, because we hope fans
can improve in whatever language they are inadequate in. Also our initial
goal, as you can see in the introduction of the index page of mui-mui.org,
we wish this website to be more educational; we wish readers can benefit
in many other general everyday life knowledge besides just news on Mui.
However, so far we don’t have time to go to that area in great extent.
Before the demise of Mui, we didn’t have too many readers. But once she
passed away, our visitors suddenly jumped to the highest might be 5,000
per day, and an average of 3,000up during the first month of her demise.
We had to keep on buying bandwidth for our two paid websites almost every
other day, at the worse point even daily. All of a sudden, seemingly her
demise awakened the hidden love that many overseas fans buried deep down
in their hearts, they suddenly became frenzy in searching for her news. (I
think among all the visitors, some were just curious.) But, our bandwidth
burden was aggravated as all the Hong Kong or other Chinese readers went
to our website too, because a few main websites in Chinese stopped
operating due to their grief for Mui, or over usage of bandwidth.
We felt the main purpose for a website for Mui is to bring updated news to
fans. Her demise was really a most important news to all her fans, how
could we abandon our website at such a critical moment? And this was the
least and only thing we could do for Mui. So we kept it going. In addition
Snoopy even set up a new paid “forum” for readers to leave memorial
words to Mui. In order to accommodate more messages, the existing Anita
Mui Forum was upgraded to paid forum at that time too, because we felt
that it was the moment many fans might need to pour out their grief or to
share their feelings with other fans, as they had no one to talk to among
their own living circle.
I might as well take this opportunity to apologize to you if you
encountered difficulty in getting into any of our websites during the
critical moment. It was really a bit out of our control and the
predicament was unforeseeable. Never thought Mui would leave us that soon!
About the present forum, it you enjoy it and if you think it is
successful, I truly believe you should not thank me or Snoopy, the success
should be attributed to all the readers and participants of this forum. A
forum actually reflects the education, the etiquette, the attitude, the
interest, the thinking, the culture… of the participants. A forum is
just like a piece of empty land Snoopy provides us with, what kinds of
flowers or structures you want to invest on this piece of land, all up to
you. Whether you want to turn it to a swampy wasteland, or you want to
protest it from unwelcome trespassers, all up to you too.
I’m glad to see the unity among fans in this forum. As June mentioned we
are here “ because of our Love for Anita… may we always unite and work
together to be able to achieve our common goal.”
I noticed participants of this forum, come and go, depending on their own
studying or working schedule. Last year Piccolo was very active here,
contributing to lots of topics in discussion with me or providing jokes
for us. Now we have another group of contributors. But this forum is for
all Mui fans, if you have time just drop by to say hello to us. Remind
you, Mui Fans, are always welcome to share your thoughts or feelings here,
as long as you keep in mind that you have to respect this forum, and
respect other readers.
Last but not least, both Snoopy and I appreciate your support, and we wish
you to enjoy this website and forum, with continuous blessings from Anita
Mui; health, peace and happiness of our life, and we hope, with Mui Spirit
we all strive to be a better person positively! Finally, a big hug for
Snoopy for providing this website and forum for us all!
Angel
IP: 81.164.248.1
May 5th, 2004 - 6:22 AM
Re: I have a date with spring
Dearest Woodstock and Snoopy,
I can not find any words to discribe how thankfull I am for the love that
you both are giving to Mui Jei and all the fans.
Woodstock and Snoopy, you are
Woodstock
IP: 218.103.253.173
May 5th, 2004 - 6:29 AM
Re: I have a date with spring
Sorry, correction, I meant many don't understand "CHINESE", not
"English" as typed in the above message.
Jason
IP: 219.95.202.182
May 5th, 2004 - 7:06 AM
Re: I have a date with spring
Hi Woodstock,
What a coincidence! I came to write & you replied to my previous
request almost at the same time.
Words cannot express my gratitude and appreciation to both Snoopy &
you. You know when we know the background and history, we love the website
& forum more & more. Just like when we know Anita's background
& past, we love & love her more.
Let me tell you why I love this forum very much. It is because of your
participation that gives us chances to know Anita much better. Your
opinions, your insights & your perspectives give us positive meanings.
Without your participation, there will not be unity and harmony among
fans. I have made comparison with other forums and that's why I can be so
confident to conclude here.
a thousand billion times to Woodstock and Snoopy.
My
and
to you both.
I
Anita
Jason
IP: 219.95.202.182
May 5th, 2004 - 7:47 AM
Re: I have a date with spring
Woodstock, I got an idea! Why not you also post your above comment at your
website, WWW.MUIMUSIC.COM. As you know, many website has a section page
for Background or Opening or Introduction for the creation of the website.
Anyway, don't bother about my insignificant suggestion.
KC
IP: 219.78.211.184
May 5th, 2004 - 9:00 AM
Re: I have a date with spring
Hi Woodstock,
I read your message above. I'm just curious, where do the funding of this
website comes from? BTW, are u and Snoopy from HK?
Jason
IP: 219.95.202.182
May 5th, 2004 - 9:57 AM
Re: I have a date with spring
Forgot important message I think I will post now before I go to have a
nice sleep and wake up a fresh person next morning.
[-------]
Without Snoopy, we cannot have this website and forum.
Without Woodstock, the website and forum may just be a white elephant.
Without active-conversational readers like Dana, there isn't an active
conversation going on interesting topics on Anita that keep readers coming
back for more.
Without poets like Angel, there isn't a more better way in expressing our
loves for Anita in such beautiful and well-explained poems.
Without die-hard loyal fans like June and Audrey, Anita's score will not
rise that high.
Without generous fans like Rowena, there will not be much ground in
sharing with fans for audio and video clips on Anita.
Without supports and loves from all fans, this forum will be redundant and
there isn't a hope to spread love for Anita at an international level.
Lastly, without me, there aren't sumptuous meals served nor unlimited
pampers showered to all die-hard fans here.
I just
you all.
june
IP: 203.168.166.150
May 5th, 2004 - 11:18 AM
Re: I have a date with spring
Whew!!!!!!! I guess we were all fated to be here.....I personally would
like to express my sincere gratitude to SNOOPY AND WOODSTOCK FOR THERE
SELFLESS ACT OF GENEROSITY, for sharing with us their most precious TIME,
TALENT AND TREASURE.......And I would just like to add to what Jason has
written, it is truly your love and dedication to Anita and her countless
fans all over the world that has kept us from coming back here.....if
Anita were alive today she must have been very, very proud of having you
as her faithful friends.....Again, thank you and please do take good care
of yourselves
Angel
IP: 81.164.252.233
May 5th, 2004 - 3:58 PM
Re: I have a date with spring
Dear Woodstock, you and Snoopy already succeed your goal :
"we wish this website to be more educational; we wish readers can
benefit in many other general everyday life knowledge besides just news on
Mui."
Every day, you are improving our knowledge in life, how to respect, how to
be possitive, how to love.
Thanks again for your effort and time for giving us so nice place to learn
so much things !
Jason
IP: 219.95.150.119
May 5th, 2004 - 6:56 PM
Re: I have a date with spring
Yup, the most important what June & Angel have added I can be so
careless & heartless to miss out. I'm sorry and don't
at me. I know you both, Woodstock and Snoopy are generous & forgiving
people, hehehehe......
And also all readers whom I've not mentioned, you're all great for having
been here.
(I'm feeling quilty now for my thoughtlessness remarks
)
dana
IP: 161.142.106.28
May 5th, 2004 - 8:30 PM
Re: I have a date with spring
My God! Jason, if you continue on like this, youll get more showering
kisses from me.
Well! Seems like what needed to be said had been well expressed by all big
sisters and big brothers here.
Ill just add in my tiny appreciation. Thank you Snoopy, Thank you
Woodstock and thanks to all in this forum for being my friend. I love you
all!
Woodstock
IP: 218.102.182.106
May 6th, 2004 - 5:57 AM
Re: I have a date with spring
Aiya, all of you are doing charity or what, giving so much compliment to
each other and to me and Snoopy
...I'm just kidding. I'm glad all of you enjoy so much fun here, and also
confirm to us that you actually gain so much in visiting this forum and
website. We are gland that our effort is not wasted.
Jason: You are so nice all the time, thanks for your heart and flowers.
Are you influenced by Angel, trying to write poem too? well done! Both
Snoopy and me like to keep ourselves in low profile, so many don't really
know who we are unless very close fan-friends. So most probably Snoopy
won't like to tell other fans about our background, or background of our
website. But thanks for your suggestion and will consider it maybe later.
KC: the funding of our website and forum comes from Snoopy's pay check.
Snoopy is in Malaysia and I'm in HK.
KC
IP: 219.78.211.15
May 6th, 2004 - 10:43 AM
Re: I have a date with spring
Just happened to hear 'I have a date with spring' sang by Alice Lau
tonight. Though I knew this song before, she sounds like Anita's.
jack
IP: 64.178.98.10
May 6th, 2004 - 1:50 PM
Re: I have a date with spring
eh..................... Anita sounds way better
boo
IP: 209.148.234.26
May 24th, 2004 - 1:27 AM
Re: I have a date with spring
the song is so good =D and movies is quite touching even though its old...
its so true we need Anita Mui more then ever with all these famous
"screaming chickens" =*(***
AT
IP: 68.126.124.2
May 12, 04 - 12:45 PM
To Dana regardigng Momoe
Yamaguchi
HI Dana,
http://marchive.hp.infoseek.co.jp/
This is one of Momoe's fan HPs. The site does not have many pictures of
Momoe because the webmaster avoids any kind of copyright ploblems. But you
can go to Discograpy section, and qlick "Single" or
"Album." You can see the cover of Momoe's records/CDs.
I am a big fan of Momoe, so when I see Anita's old video clips (from
around 1984 and 1985), I am very surprised and delighted that she really
looked like Momoe at that time.
If you are curious, Momoe started her career at fourteen after she passed
the singing contest in TV program called STAR IS BORN! and Sony scouted
her at that time (in the summer of 1972). Her debut was the May in the
following year and she retired in October 1980. She was longing for a
normal family, which means there are parents and children, as she was a
love child. I mean her mother was a mistress.
As soon as her singing career started, she also acted in TV drama series
and movies. One of her TV series, AKAI GIWAKU (Anita sang the theme song.
That is RED WONDER) became a phenomenon in Japan, and she and co-star
Tomokazu Miura were considered the best couple. They acted together in RED
SENSATION (Anita also sang the theme song), twelve movies and commercials.
They got married in 1980. Since then, Momoe keeps a low profile life
despite of the fact that her songs are still popular after 24 years of her
retirement.
Anita covered altogether, I think, 7 Momoe’s songs such as MAN JU SHA
KA, WALK MY ROAD ALONE, and ICY MOUNTAIN VOLCANO. Leslie Cheung’s
signature song WIND CONTINUE TO BLOW is also originally Momoe
Yamaguchi’s.
I hope this will help you.
Woodstock
IP: 219.76.64.2
May 12th, 2004 - 4:17 PM
Re: To Dana regardigng Momoe Yamaguchi
AT: Thanks for detailed information on Momoe Yamaguchi. In addtion to the
3 songs you mentioned, another most famous classic song [Walk my road
alone ] of Mui is Momoe's too.
BTW, actually I like Mayumi Itsuwa even more than Momoe because of her low
voice, more close to Mui, so quite a few songs of Paula Tsui are from
Mayumi's original collection.
dana
IP: 61.6.132.140
May 13th, 2004 - 3:43 AM
Re: To Dana regardigng Momoe Yamaguchi
Hi! AT. Thank you so much! Ive checked out the link and YES!..they do look
alike in appearance as well as career wise. Wow! if not for your info, I
wouldnt know those songs originated from Momoe. 'Man Ju Sha Ka'& 'Wind
Continue To Blow' are two of my favourites. Did Anita sang the theme song
in Japanese? How I wish I can get to hear them. I saw Momoe's wedding
pictures,they are a lovely pair.
Actually, I have a great love for Japanese songs esp. those classical
ones. My knowledge of Japanese is limited and I couldnt tell you the
titles of the songs/sung by whom, which is a great disappointment for me.
Knowing Anitas best loved country is Japan, I can understand why she
insisted having those beautiful pictures taken in Japan for 'HOMW' when
she knew her days are numbered. She had truly accomplished her 2 greatest
wish before her death. AT, why not join us in 'HOMW' thread, if possible
give us a further insight of your glorious encounters w/Anita. I know all
of us will be delighted. Please?
Btw, I saw the part with the aged Yoshiko in Shibuya w/the monkey on her
shoulder in 'Kawashima Yoshiko'. She did not die. I bought the vcd in
Australia. I love this movie too, where we can see how selfish/heartless
she can be. It was a very demanding role for her but she handled it
magnificently and she certaintly looked handsome in man's clothes.
june
IP: 61.10.7.150
May 13th, 2004 - 9:44 AM
Re: To Dana regardigng Momoe Yamaguchi
Hi!!! I would just like to thank AT for giving us a background of Momoe's
life and career....in a way, Anita and Momoe certainly have similarities
career-wise and looks. Walk my road alone is one of my favorite songs of
Anita, that's why I'm happy to know from here about it's origin....
jack
IP: 68.81.218.112
May 13th, 2004 - 12:07 PM
Re: To Dana regardigng Momoe Yamaguchi
dana: she did die in the movie ... the princess was assasinated in real
life though - i thought that was andy lau at the end with the monkey -
correct me if i'm wrong.
AT
IP: 68.126.124.2
May 13th, 2004 - 1:14 PM
Re: To Dana regardigng Momoe Yamaguchi
Hi Jack,
That was the aged Yoshiko Kawashima with a monky on her shoulder. Trust
me. I compared my old DVD to new (Fourtune Star/Deltamac version) VCD.
When I saw the movie at the HKIFF in April, I was surprised to see that
ending. I do not know why it was cut off in old versions (Mei Ah and
Universe versions).
june
IP: 203.168.166.150
May 13th, 2004 - 7:58 PM
Re: To Dana regardigng Momoe Yamaguchi
Hi and good day to all!!! Jack I also saw the uncut version and she was
the one that has the monkey on top of her shoulder, in short, she did not
die.
By the way, Jack thank you for the added info you gave about the real
Yoshiko, that she died because she was assasinated...
dana
IP: 61.6.111.122
May 13th, 2004 - 8:34 PM
Re: To Dana regardigng Momoe Yamaguchi
Hi! Jack..both ladies have given you the correct answer.
Leelee
IP: 195.243.11.13
May 13th, 2004 - 9:53 PM
Re: To Dana regardigng Momoe Yamaguchi
AT & Woodstock, u r not as young as i thought... Mayumi Itsuwa is like
fr Teresa Teng, Boney M's time fr my childhood memory!
ML
IP: 219.95.151.5
May 13th, 2004 - 10:52 PM
Re: To Dana regardigng Momoe Yamaguchi
Sorry, I prefer to remain a reader. But I couldn't help not to respond to
Leelee's statement.
Leelee, I'm not attacking neither am I angry at you. I just want to
correct your statement from my point of view.
If all people have the same thinking as you and think that past-time old
artistes are older people's favorite, then Anita's legacy can not last
long. Younger generation would find it a shame or the 'out' thing to tell
his/her friends, relatives and colleagues Anita is his/her favorite
artiste.
AT
IP: 68.126.124.2
May 14th, 2004 - 1:07 AM
Re: To Dana regardigng Momoe Yamaguchi
Hi Woodstock, other Momoe Yamaguchi’s songs that Anita sang were DAY AND
NIGHT RMEMBER ME (日夜懷念我) and NO NEED TO THINK ABOUT ME
（不必想我）from her first album. I did not know about Paula Tsui
covered Mayumi Itsuwa’s songs while my interest of songs is mainly
Anita’s. I know Itsuwa’s songs have dramatic melodies that attract to
some singers but I do not like some of the original lyrics, especially TO
MY LOVER. It does not make a sense. Talking about lyrics, I dislike
original one of WALK MY ROAD ALONE, so I like Anita’s version. It is
very funny to say this because I do not understand the meanings of
Anita’s songs, either, but I can feel Anita’s emotion. And I know you
do not hear lyrics.
By the way, I want to know if Anita’s RED WONDER and RED SENSATION were
overlapped the program when it was on the air. I mean the viewers heard
the theme song by Anita when they watched the program?
I have other question. Anita was invited a concert in Soul Olympic in
1988. Do you know anything about it? I know you were not in Hong Kong at
that time but do you have a friend who knows it?
Hi Dana, thank you for reading my past postings. I enjoy reading HOMW
thread or any other threads very much. But my English is limited as you
know. It takes a long time to write it down. It is better to spend time to
reading all postings. Like I said before, I treasured the book HEART OF
MODERN WOMAN because I consider this is Anita’s will (from page 4 to 12)
to us. And I was touched and my heart was aching to see three pictures in
the book. Those were that Anita was feeding turtles on the floor. She
looked so happy. The pictures show her love, tenderness and joyfulness.
But what I felt the most was her loneliness. I almost cry.
Now I know there was a strong connection between Anita and Japan. Since
she was participated the Tokyo International Music Festival in 1983, she
visited Japan many times for business and private purpose. I am asking
friends in Japan about the Japanese variety TV program that Anita was
teaching Cantonese for 3 months. So far, I was not confirmed the exact
year she did it. Not many people remembered it. And I do not easily trust
any articles in Asia. As for her Japanese, Anita sang very well in
Japanese. I did not know she spoke Japanese. When she went to Kyoto for
commercial filming, it was freezing cold. Unusually too cold. Something
happened on the way to Kyoto or in those cold days there to Anita. She was
so weak on the last day in Kyoto. If she did not go to Kyoto, is she still
alive?
Dana, are you living in Australia? Wow, it must be difficult to get
Anita’s CD/VCD/DVDs. I am glad you like Japanese songs. In early 80’s
in Hong Kong not only Anita and Leslie but also many singers covered
Japanese songs.
Hi June, you are very kind person.
Woodstock
IP: 218.103.196.49
May 14th, 2004 - 5:49 AM
Re: To Dana regardigng Momoe Yamaguchi
Hello, AT:
I have the The Legendary Collection by Sony, both of Itsuwa and Yamaguchi,
but as you remember I don’t listen to lyrics, also I don’t understand
Japanese, but I do like Japanese songs. Paula sang quite a few of
Itsuwa’s song, even Alan Tam. You are right, Anita sang her songs with
such emotion, we can easily moved by her voice.
About the 2 programs when they were played on HK TV, the theme songs of
Anita were played at the same time, so audience could hear her singing at
the same time when they were watching the program. In HK, the programs
were named after the names of the songs, so one is Red Wonder, the other
Red Sensation.
About the Soul Olympic in 1988, I know Anita Mui was invited to the
opening of the Game, and she sang the opening song. I just checked with
one fan, she could not remember what other song Anita performed, but Anita
was so involved in performing, she even took off her skirt while
singing….hahaha……..but she got pants underneath. I will check with
another fan after she returns from her trip. If I have any further news
will let you know later.
Remember you mentioned you didn’t enjoy Justice My Foot too well, as you
don’t understand why the dialogue so funny.? This has to do with the
humor of different places or countries, different culture has different
humors. In that movie, they used a lot of local humor and very colloquial
language, so it is quite difficult for other people who are not Cantonese
to understand, this is why you don’t feel the dialogue funny. This is
also the reason why comedy of a certain country is not appealing to all
nations, difficult for comedian to win Oscar Award, while melodramas or
tragedies is more an universal language than comedies.
About the Japanese program, in one Chinese magazine it was said Mui went
to Japan to be in charge of this program in 1989, but as you said those
magazines could not be trusted. AT, have you read the Japanese Magazine
– Pop Asia, I just uploaded at this website last night? All in Japanese,
I can’t understand, please take a look, see if you find any information
on that.
You are right, Anita got so sick after she went to Kyoto. Did you see the
VCD that came with the Book? She looked as 2 completely different persons
on the day she left HK airport from the day she arrived at HK airport. My
heart ached when saw her on TV news on her arrival, she was so weak and
talked with no energy at all….sigh………If she didn’t go, she might
not leave so soon. But, I think, if she didn’t go to Kyoto, then she
would go to Beijing for the movie, cold weather too. So either trip would
shorten her life……to make myself feel better, I would tell myself that
is fate, time for her to end the suffering in this world, and to go to a
better place of peace and happiness.
dana
IP: 61.6.171.54
May 14th, 2004 - 7:48 AM
Re: To Dana regardigng Momoe Yamaguchi
Hi! AT, Im not residing in Australia at this moment. I bought the vcd when
I was back home for the holidays. It is not too difficult to get those HK
cds/vcds/dvds in Australia. There are a few Chinese shops in Sydney's
chinatown and they have direct dealings with HK & China. I usually go
to the one in Sussex street where they have a bigger display.
Yes, AT most of us still have that special feeling whenever we think of
Anita. Even surrounded with so many friends I do think she is a very
lonely woman but in a way as Woodstock said she is a True buddhist, Im
sure shes at peace w/herself and found her true happiness.
june
IP: 203.168.166.150
May 14th, 2004 - 11:22 AM
Re: To Dana regardigng Momoe Yamaguchi
Hi AT.....thanks for the compliment......take care!
AT
IP: 68.126.124.2
May 16th, 2004 - 6:59 PM
Re: To Dana regardigng Momoe Yamaguchi
Hi Woodstock,
Thank you for telling me Anita in Seoul and TV series’ theme songs. Was
she performed at the opening ceremony of the Olympic Game in 1988? Or was
it the night before concert? Wow, she took off the skirt while singing?
Like at the Golden Needle Award in 1999? Did she sing with other guests?
Please inform me when you know more detail. I wish I could see it.
Regarding Japanese magazine POP ASIA articles, they were well written
memorial features about Anita Mui. [She was a symbol of Hong Kong.] The
articles were divided to two pages for each her singing and acting
careers, one page for each 10 best albums and 10 best movies, and the last
page for filmography and discography. The writers are very knowledgeable
about Canto-pops and Hong Kong movies. Two writers are my friends and in a
way sifu about Hong Kong. (You saw one of them at the 100 days ritual.) No
mention about Japanese program. Despite the fact that Anita had a strong
connection with Japan, she was not so popular. Only Hong Kong movie fans
knew her as a co-star of Jackie Chen, Chow Yun Fat, Leslie Cheung, Jet Li
and Andy Lau. Many do not know she started as singer. I used be one of
them.
There are small memorial article in other paper. I think their episodes
with her were interesting. I will try my best to translate them. By the
way, all articles begin how they were shocked by the new of Anita’s
demise including POP ASIA.
This is written by a man who wrote several books about Hong Kong movies.
[I was not so close to Anita Mui personally but I saw her several times.
At first, like Leslie Cheung, I was introduced her by Florence Chan. I
think that was around her first concert. Since then I have seen her
concerts many times because I and my wife happened to be friend Katy Chan
for a long time who was produced Anita’s concerts. I remembered that
Anita saw and wanted a jewel accessory that my wife made for Katy. In the
end Katy gave it Anita because she was so persistent. When Jackie Chan was
recording a song, Anita came with him. I saw her very sincere as an
artist. The last time I saw her was that at backstage of Yumiko
Matsutoya’s Hong Kong concert tow years ago. We talked about her last
film, JULY RHAPSODY 男人四十. Whenever I saw her, she was very
charming and cute, and care for other people. I felt she was somehow
lonely person…..]
The other is written by a woman distributor of some of Wong Kar Wai films.
[The first time I recognized Anita Mui was ROUGE and as a singer, it was
the theme song of DAYS OF BEING WILD 阿飛正傳. …I saw Anita
several times. My impression about her was Big Sister with tough
personality. One day during Chinese New Year holidays, I had a date with
Carina Lau and her friends in Shinjuku, Tokyo. She brought Anita with
other friends. No one noticed them. Then we started to play a Hong Kong
game (I think that was the game Chow Yun Fat did in the movie 100 WAYS TO
MURDER YOUR WIFE 殺妻２人組 ) in a hip bar. Anita was so into the
game. She looked like a boy and had glittering aura. I thought she was
cute in real life and this was her true persona to show only if she was
with her close friends. After that she helped us to cover her concerts and
come to our HK movie fans party as a guest in Hong Kong.]
I like reading Anita’s old interviews. Please keep uploading.
Leelee
IP: 195.243.11.13
May 16th, 2004 - 9:52 PM
Re: To Dana regardigng Momoe Yamaguchi
Sorry, tht was a bad joke. I'm still welcomed to forum rite?!
I like Miho Nakayama... not for her singing but there's something 'bout
her tht attracted me to her. Like Mui, she's a big sis in e showbiz, a
fine actress & extremely feminine.
Angel
IP: 81.164.240.99
May 17th, 2004 - 1:53 AM
Re: To Dana regardigng Momoe Yamaguchi
Thanks AT for sharing, I heard also that Mui Jei is not so popular as
singer in Japan, but Mui Jei has an album out in Japan with Japanese
tranlation lyrics, isn't it ?
dana
IP: 218.103.253.211
May 17th, 2004 - 7:04 AM
Re: To Dana regardigng Momoe Yamaguchi
Hi! AT, thanks a lot for sharing w/us your past encounters w/Anita. It is
absolutely thrilling reading through it and in a way allowing us to see
Anita as a carefree & fun loving person.
Woodstock
IP: 218.103.253.211
May 17th, 2004 - 8:40 AM
Re: To Dana regardigng Momoe Yamaguchi
AT: Thanks so much for translating those articles for us. I will copy them
to the website tomorrow. Yep, Mui actually was very playful, that's why I
like to go to her birthday party. She really played and joked around
happily with her fans, because there was no media around. But if with
friends, I bet she would let go completely.
About Soul Olympic, The fan I talked to told me it was not the opening
show Mui performed, it was at the gala show before the opening ceremony.
Also it was the sexy wide type, not as lady-like as in the Gold Needle
Award. Anyway, I will keep on enquiring around if anyone remembers.
AT
IP: 68.126.124.2
May 17th, 2004 - 1:39 PM
Re: To Dana regardigng Momoe Yamaguchi
Hi everyone, I am glad you like to know Anita’s playful side.
Woodstock, I have to make sure. I extracted those article from
香港電影通信 #160 not POP ASIA. The first writer is Eiji Ogura and
the second one is Hiroko Shinohara. To tell you the truth, there was one
big article about Anita by Noriko Serada. She is a film critic and
translator living in Hong Kong. In her article, she wrote: [After I moved
to Hong Kong in 1989, one day, my friend who is now a costume designer for
films took me a big gorgeous house. That was Anita Mui’s house. There
were many people as if it were their own house although Anita was not at
home. I was very uncomfortable the situation. So as soon as Anita came
back, I greeted her and left. Several days later, her home was
burglarized. Then there were unpleasant things happened around her one
after another. I could not see her just an artist. …… I near-missed
her over her last work Modern Beauty Saloon commercial. One ad company
called me, “Anita wants to go to shoot CF in Okinawa for the saloon.
Since you know Okinawa very well, will you help us?” I instantly
imagined Anita in a spiritual place called ??? would be very good. … As
you know, that was not realized. But if she went to Okinawa instead of
Kyoto, I am sure, she would have had a sort of spiritual cleansing
experience….]
Woodstock, at that time, not only Anita but other stars had problems,
didn’t they? Why Anita was suffered so much? Maybe that was also fate.
The more you told me about the Gala party in Seoul in 1988, the more I
want to see it. I hope someone recorded it, so that I can see it some day.
Did she sing in Korean?
Angel, yes, Anita released two single records in Japan in 1983. They are
交出我的心, 心債, 不信愛有罪 and 不許再回頭. A few
months ago, I think Timothy gave us the site that you could listen to
them. I am not sure the site is still there, though. I also heard that
there a duet with Jackie Chan called ARASHI NI NARE in Japanese. The
Cantonese title is 前綿千遍 and I saw them singing Cantonese version
in an old program. I think her Japanese was better than Jackie. One of my
friends told me that Anita could speak short sentence/phrase in Japanese.
I understand what you wrote in other thread. Me too, even if I could not
see her, knowing that I share the same place with her made me happy. Then
I was lucky than you, because of my job I could get a press pass to cover
the Hong Kong Film Award ceremony. Every time she was there, media swarmed
her and no place for me to squeeze in. I could not take a picture but I
was happy as she was there.
Angel
IP: 81.165.86.57
May 17th, 2004 - 2:47 PM
Re: To Dana regardigng Momoe Yamaguchi
Dear AT, thanks a lot for your fast reply ! I really like to read your
experience when you saw Mui Jei. Thank you for sharing with us ! I'm happy
to know that you understand the feeling, but I'm very happy for you that
you can have so many beautiful memories of Mui Jei, I hope you can share
more with us !
Woodstock
IP: 218.103.204.130
May 18th, 2004 - 6:37 AM
Re: To Dana regardigng Momoe Yamaguchi
AT: thank you very much for detailed information on Anita with her
friends. I will try to arrange them properly and then upload to the
website.
In the Chinese article it was mentioned that her jewelry was missing after
people brought strangers, I mean friend's friends into her house, even her
own room. It was pretty bad, really.
Anita went through more pressure than anyone else in the circle, it is not
easy for her to maintain her Big Sister status, and remain on the top in
the music industry throughout her career about 21 years. Imagine all by
herself, as a woman, without any really close friends or relatives to
help, also in such a complicated environment. One of the causes of cancer
is pressure and suppressed emotion. Of course fate is not treating her too
good either. But we can only say you can have one thing, you might not
have another thing. What else can we say?
I don't think she sang in Korean. I was really wondering if it was played
on HK TV, because the fan I asked is a die hard fan, she only remembered
she read information in the newspaper. I asked a few other fans, all said
they don't remember. Anyway, will keep an eye for you.
AT
IP: 68.126.124.2
May 21st, 2004 - 10:08 PM
Re: To Dana regardigng Momoe Yamaguchi
Hi Woodstock,
Anita had to go through so many things by herself and maintained her
status and artistic standard at the same time. I really respect her. Being
in show business and successful is very difficult although people tend to
see only brighter side. I know this because I have been interviewed many
stars.
I am writing a book about Brigitte Lin Ching Hsia (Lam Ching Ha) for more
than seven years. Well, I finished writing it long ago and now it should
be revising process but it is just collecting dust. I am worn out to
obtain copyrights from film companies as well as getting a publisher. You
are right. Some big companies only concerned about money and charged me a
lot of money for one picture while older companies gave me free of charge
in honor to Brigitte. My main reason I wrote a book is that there is no
informative and wonderful bilingual or English website about her like
yours for Anita, I just wanted to share my information.
When I was reading Anita’s interviews, I found many similarities between
them. Marriage has to be once in a life time. They would like to be a bird
in next life because it seems to have freedom. They are late bloomer. When
they were early teens, they were short and later grew taller. They are
interested in psychology (I think they need it to survive in such a harsh
business). Media attacked them and there were a lot of unpleasant rumors.
They did want not protest because it might get more attention, so just let
it go. Both of them took a break in their twenties. Their good friend was
Leslie Cheung and a hairstylist was Kim Robinson. They were very handsome
in cross dressing.
I am sure that all successful stars have similar kind of wisdom to be what
they are. For Anita’s case, she was all by herself. Brigitte had a
normal life until seventeen and two close friends from high school. That
was a big difference. Anita said Eddie Lau was her close friend. But I
think Eddie treated Anita as a sister forever, not a friend on equal
level. In his mind he was superior to Anita all the time. That was why he
did know like her became cleverer.
What I want to say is that reading old interviews and articles is very
interesting. I can be a detective to solve a mystery. I know I had to be
very careful. I should not believe blindly what I read and what was
written. And also I know nobody wants to tell the whole true story when he
or she knows it is going to be in public. Anita was straightforward and
not telling a lie but that did not mean she talked entirely truth.
Everybody has some secrets.
I want to know more about Anita Mui. This site and Woodstock help me a
lot. Thank you very much. I really do not want to admire and respect Anita
blindly. I am learning something from Anita as a decent human being who
happened to be the best performer in East.
As for Seoul in 1988, it is possible that only news footage about it was
broadcast in Hong Kong.
Woodstock
IP: 218.103.255.230
May 22nd, 2004 - 6:24 PM
Re: To Dana regardigng Momoe Yamaguchi
AT:
I like your message of yesterday so much, because that is exactly how I
see things about entertainment circle, but you even have deeper insight as
you have contact with people of that circle, while what I know is by my
own observation through readings or a few things my friend told me about
that circle or that big company. But if we can look at Mui just as a
normal human being, actually not really difficult to know the hardship she
has gone through, provided you have a mature and realistic way of
thinking, especially we are of the same sex, female. I’m a quite
snobbish type of person, never really would like a person to such a
degree, but I have to admit that I do like her a lot and respect her a
lot, as a professional of another professional. I have also learned lots
of things from her for our life, as you said.
Mui had to work twice harder or even than other artistes in the circle for
recognition because of her family background, that had a great impact on
her character, and she even admitted she had inferiority complex, except
on the stage. If she had been treated fairly by society, how would she
feel inferior? She did so much charity and contributed so much to the
society, but she never got any recognition from the government, not even
be nominated as one of the 10 Best Young Persons that are being elected
annually, while other artistes hardly do anything, but they were all
honored with that title. Than last year, she did so much for the SARS, in
July, I think other people worked or died for SAR got medals from the
government, but not Mui. I really feel sorry for all these. Mui is a
human, you think she doesn’t know the reason behind? She never really
gets the respect that she deserves. AT, you are so right, many things she
can’t talk about, not she wants to lie to others, but there are private
things and thoughts, not necessary to make public especially she is an
artiste and an idol of many young people. She had to maintain her image.
Also as you said no use to protest.
Personally I feel she is too much “deep rooted” in that
“unhealthy” entertainment circle. If she has some good friends from
other fields, as Brigitte with 2 close friends from high school, she might
able to have a balance. At least could have a mental break and be away
from pressure. Just like Maggie Cheung, after work, she has her own life,
while Mui in her private life, still surrounded by those so-called friends
from her circle. You know they are so inconsiderate, or maybe ignorant.
When Mui was already sick with cancer, they smoked, non-stop, while
sitting beside her at the dinner table during her birthday party.
….. Maybe because of her inferiority complex, she was afraid to step out
to any new environment or to make new contact which she was not familiar
with. Just my guess.
I fully agreed to what you said about Eddie Lau. I was shocked by his
comment when he mentioned he liked the young Mui more and didn’t like
the present Mui as she could read people’s mind now. He should feel
happy for her, as at least she tried to protect herself now. Talking about
this guy, I’m really very disappointed in him, maybe I thought too high
of him taking him as one of those who really took good care of Mui. He is
selfish in a way, but too much. By his own writing, he is supposed to be
the one who knows Mui’s situation best, how weak she was. But then, how
could he design the wedding gown that is more than 80 lbs for Mui to wear,
while she herself might be only weigh 80-90lb? I know the answer. But
rather not say it here
Hummmm……this seems to be another “grumbling” day of mine……
AT, please don’t give up on your book on Brigitte since you have already
finished writing. You must try hard for the copyrights, I think publisher
will be easier. To be persistent, as Mui told us, then you will have the
goal achieved. I will be your reader, I order one now. Big deal……
Would you consider to write a book for Mui? But better not, I guess more
trouble to get copyrights, right? BTW, Brigitte, in a way, is more
fortunate than Mui in many ways. At least, she has a very happy marriage
now. Also in case you need old pictures of any star, I know a shop that
sells all old pictures, that is the company that published the magazine I
uploaded just a few days ago. The boss told me even Mui went to his shop
to buy pictures of 西城秀樹in her early day.
Since there are still so many English readers interested in Mui, I will
keep on doing the translation of her past interview. But do be patient, as
it takes time. Also it is my personal style of translation, I like to
stick to the original context, I won’t add “salt or sugar or
vinegar”, no fabrication or personal ideas.
BTW, AT, is your friend Noriko in HK, has leg injury recently and resting
at home now?
Have a nice day!
Angel
IP: 81.164.245.203
May 22nd, 2004 - 6:45 PM
Re: To Dana regardigng Momoe Yamaguchi
Woodstock, thank you for mentioning that interview from Eddy Lau again,
now I'm sure, I didn't misunderstand, very disappointed about him.
Woodstock
IP: 218.103.255.230
May 22nd, 2004 - 8:08 PM
Re: To Dana regardigng Momoe Yamaguchi
Angel: as you know I didn't want to talk about it, someone might come up
and attack me again. But since AT mentioned about him, also I have been
watching the concert VCD, you know it really bothered me.
I was at the first show too. Actually Mui started the concert by singing
the song 夢裏共醉, she even did the original dance of this song on
floor. But when she finished, she was so out of breath. Then in the shows
following, she didn't perform the original dance anymore . I don't mean I
want Mui to do more dances (persoanlly I prefer her just to sit there and
sing) but it is just not appropriate to give her extra burden since she
was so weak already, she could not even attend the original scheduled
rehearsal, not able to eat well during the concert and even had fever for
a few days.
Watching the concert, I really feel so bad that a sick person has to
entertain us. But in a way I feel happy for her that she had her wish
fulfilled. Also she was so brilliant that only in this way, by a concert ,
she could say good bye to all the fans, those HK people who cared about
her and all her friends of the entertainment circle. She is always a
inspiration in a way
Jack
IP: 64.178.98.10
May 22nd, 2004 - 10:28 PM
Re: To Dana regardigng Momoe Yamaguchi
AT, June, and Dana - Thanks for correcting me! sorry i was wrong
Angel
IP: 81.164.245.203
May 23rd, 2004 - 2:16 AM
Re: To Dana regardigng Momoe Yamaguchi
Woodstock, I need to control my tears again when I read what you wrote.
AT
IP: 68.126.124.2
May 23rd, 2004 - 3:01 AM
Re: To Dana regardigng Momoe Yamaguchi
Woodstock:
I am very sorry that my posting cause you grumbling again. But I totally
agree with you, especially about a red costume. That was a proof of being
INCONSIDERATE. If he was thoughtful, he could not design it with heavy
material. Anita’s so-called friends are also inconsiderate (please read
Ming Pao Weekly #1699). She did not have a role model in her life, so she
became a role model. She was surrounded by inconsiderate people, so she
became so considerate to others. She did not get a love she hungered for,
so she knew how to give a love.
I have no desire to write a book about Anita because I do not have enough
knowledge about her. I just wrote an article to Momoe Yamaguchi’ s HP.
This is my way of saying thank Anita. And I think that is the most
appropriate place. In the article I wrote: [Anita lives as twice speed as
normal. Her life may be short, but her lifetime achievement is worth more
than 40 years. People are talking about how long and how many memorial
programs are broadcasted, how many records she sold, what kind of awards
and how many times she got and so on. But the numbers are not important.
Her true achievement is not visible. They are her conveying heart of
songs, her tenderness and love, her courage and righteousness, her
sincerity and responsibility, her loyalty and kind-heart, her endurance
and endeavor, her high-standard and persistence, and her fighting spirit
to any difficulty.(Sorry for my bad translation)] Yes, her two wishes (say
goodbye to her friends and fans and wearing a wedding gown) were fulfilled
in the most memorable way. She left us physically but her inspiration
remains us all the time. Even though Anita was far from best condition,
she sang better than most singers today. Amazing!
Can I ask a request for an article translation? Could you translate or
write summary of what Florence Chan wrote for Ming Pao Weekly (#1693,
1694, 1695, 1700 ) in 2001?
No, I do not know Noriko got a leg injury. I have not contacted her a long
time. How did you know it?
Where is the picture shop? Is it in North Point? When I go to Hong Kong
next time, I want to go.
june
IP: 61.10.7.150
May 23rd, 2004 - 5:25 AM
Re: To Dana regardigng Momoe Yamaguchi
AT hello, I posted a message for you in the Please vote thread, please
read...thank you
Woodstock
IP: 218.103.204.103
May 23rd, 2004 - 5:09 PM
Re: To Dana regardigng Momoe Yamaguchi
AT:
I should thank you for giving me the chance to grumble
. You are absolutely correct. Just to add, Mui proved that she looked
great with a flair in any costumes, any designs by any designers, in any
kinds of material. But not all singers can handle Eddie Lau's design and
achieve the effect he wants. Mui never failed his expectation.
I really like your way of writing (style of critics), concise and up to
point. Your article about Mui in Momoe's HP, though not many words,
already expressed million of words I want to say. Thank you very much!
.
About the Mingpao articles, they were about early days of Mui when
Florence was still working with CA as managress of Mui and Leslie. I will
translate them, no problem.
About Noriko, a friend read the quotes of Noriko I uploaded at the
website. And she got a Japanese neighbour named Noriko, their sons are
play mates. So my friend is wondering if this is the same Noriko.
About the shop, you are right it is always in North Point. But at
different locations. Now located in a less popular commercial building. If
you like to go next time in HK, please let me know, will check for you if
it is still at the same building.
Jack
IP: 64.178.98.10
May 23rd, 2004 - 7:14 PM
Re: To Dana regardigng Momoe Yamaguchi
aside from eddie lau, didn't anita trust leslie as a family as well...
it's unfortunate that he wasn't around to comfort mui during those times
of pain... im sure he would be with anita's side more than eddie while she
was sick...
june
IP: 218.102.182.165
May 23rd, 2004 - 8:53 PM
Re: To Dana regardigng Momoe Yamaguchi
Hey AT! See! I even missed what you wrote about Anita in Momoe's HP, maybe
you all know the reason why
...Wow!!! That was a great one! And I truly agree with you, she's truly
AMAZING!!!!!! in her last concert...have you seen it already?
AT
IP: 68.126.124.2
May 24th, 2004 - 4:34 PM
Re: To Dana regardigng Momoe Yamaguchi
June, I have not seen VCDs yet because my order has not arrived. It is on
the way. Now they will release with guests version. I hope they will
release other her concerts soon or in the future. And I am casting votes
as much as I can. Do not worry.
Woodstock, if Noriko you are talking about lives in 沙田, she is the
one. What a small world.
By the way, I should have asked you to correct my bad translation when you
upload them. I am soooo embarrassed.
It is happy to know Anita have talked Momoe on phone. And thank you for a
new article translation.
Woodstock
IP: 218.103.202.124
May 24th, 2004 - 5:04 PM
Re: To Dana regardigng Momoe Yamaguchi
Jack: exactly, Mui treated Leslie as one of her family, in Mingpao #1796,
she talked again about their sisterly/brotherly relationship.
They both together worked from scratch to their present prestigeous
status. During early days, when they were on singing tour, they helped
each other and supported each other, not only physically but spiritually
too.
At bottom of her heart, she knew who really loves her most. When she was
with Gor Gor, you will see how Mui acted like a little sister holding his
arm intimately, and Gor Gor would hold her hand just like tugging a little
sister along when there were crowds. Very touching.
So Gor Gor's death was really a devastating blow to Mui. Remember she once
even jokingly asked Gor Gor to marry her if she still could not get
married before she died. She would never imagine Gor Gor would terminate
his life like that and left before her. Otherwise I really believe Gor Gor
would grant her the wish, on the stage.
Actually, Mui set very low standard for her friend, she said anyone who
didn't kick her when she was in trouble, she would already regard that one
as a friend. But she mentioned in her past interview she divided her
friends into 3 kinds.
Personally I believe any friendship with no money involved would be more
sincere and pure. Mui is a very considerate and understanding person, she
knows "people have to eat too". Then I think those, to whom Mui
gave a job, didn't put her interest on the top of the priority list,
instead still taking advantage of her should really ask themselves whether
they have any conscience at all.
Woodstock
IP: 218.103.202.124
May 24th, 2004 - 5:23 PM
Re: To Dana regardigng Momoe Yamaguchi
AT: yep, that is the same Noriko, she lives in Shatin.
. When my friend asked me about this, I already mentioned to her what a
small world, because I already sensed that is the same Noriko.
I will go to translate the 4 Mingpao interviews you asked for from today
onwards
Cheers!
Jack
IP: 64.178.98.10
May 24th, 2004 - 5:30 PM
Re: To Dana regardigng Momoe Yamaguchi
thanks woodstock for that reply. i have the same thoughts as well... poor
anita - it was such a blow for her that leslie left her
dana
IP: 218.111.1.230
May 24th, 2004 - 7:49 PM
Re: To Dana regardigng Momoe Yamaguchi
I admired BrigitteLin too. Shes great in PekingOperaBlue. I would say
Anita looked more handsome as a guy maybe beacuse BL's features are more
feminine. Anita, as always looked great in those army uniforms/those male
chinese traditional wear w/the small tiny hat.What do you call
those,Woodstock?
Right again, Woodstock, Leslie & Anita are inseparable. How I often
wished they are a couple!
june
IP: 61.10.7.150
May 25th, 2004 - 1:15 AM
Re: To Dana regardigng Momoe Yamaguchi
AT hello and good day to you!!! Yeah you're right I hope so too, that with
the outcome of the sales of her VCD concert, CA would consider releasing
her other concerts....lets just cross our fingers....
Btw, thank you too for your concern, and thank you for your support in the
voting site....God bless!
AT
IP: 68.126.124.2
May 25th, 2004 - 1:49 AM
Re: To Dana regardigng Momoe Yamaguchi
Jack, Dana, Woodstock, I agree about Leslie and Anita. They were soul
mate. They got through many hardships together. I saw many video clips in
other sites. They were a perfect match. In the last day the encore of
Fantasy Gig 2002 concert I think they did not do rehearsal but they were
so good. When Anita passed away, I believed that Leslie took her with him,
so that she would not have pain anymore. I hope they are having a good
time now.
dana
IP: 218.111.3.202
May 25th, 2004 - 7:38 AM
Re: To Dana regardigng Momoe Yamaguchi
Wow! thats what Ive always been thinking, AT. They are fated to be
together, in what I believe should be their destiny.
Re: I have a date with spring
) Sigh, I miss Ah Mui.
Re: I have a date with spring
a thousand billion times to Woodstock and Snoopy.
and 
to you both.
Woodstock, I got an idea! Why not you also post your above comment at your
website, WWW.MUIMUSIC.COM. As you know, many website has a section page
for Background or Opening or Introduction for the creation of the website.
Anyway, don't bother about my insignificant suggestion. 
Forgot important message I think I will post now before I go to have a
nice sleep and wake up a fresh person next morning.
you all.
at me. I know you both, Woodstock and Snoopy are generous & forgiving
people, hehehehe......
)
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