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I've lost e site at which e concert can be viewed, can someone provide me
e add? Thanks
Snoopy
IP: 219.95.174.253
Apr 22nd, 2004 - 8:26 PM
Re: '99 Concert
All material by others are copyrighted. Even our wesbite material is
copyrighted. We try all the best not to exploit or be exploited by others
along the way. As you can see, any one can post a link to download from
any site in our forum. I'm sure most reader knew the difference and
manners to manage this type of information.
rowena
IP: 202.69.180.61
Apr 23rd, 2004 - 10:32 AM
Re: '99 Concert
hi all!
snoopy: thank u for ur opinion! now i can post the link..
requirement:
1) need a yahoo accnt
2) shud be a member of the group
1) open the link i gave
2) click join the group.. (when u click it, it will ask u to sign in..
type ur yahoo ID and password) then it will go to the groups homepage.
fill up the form then click join..
3) to download click the group name *mui99concert/mui99concert_2*. go to
FILE located at the leftside of site.. after clicking it, all the files in
the group will be viewed. u can now download..
*sorry this is the only way i know for u co-fan to download it since
www.yw.com is not available. kinda to many procedure to follow.
*
if u have any question or having a problem with it don't hesitate to ask
me. i'll be glad to help u until u successfully download it..
rowena
IP: 202.69.180.81
Apr 24th, 2004 - 12:42 AM
Re: '99 Concert
to those who join mui99concert group with this ID's (ap_1006, chankyk,
fblin, y_mama) your request has been approve! you can now download the '99
concert (part 1). happy download!
rowena
IP: 202.70.104.97
May 15th, 2004 - 5:37 AM
Re: '99 Concert
ooops... sorry for the delay in approving ur requests.. i didn't check my
email that's why i didn't know that someone joined the group. sorry! if
someone join the group pls post a msg here coz i always check posts in the
forum everyday.. thanks a lot!
to fans who has the following email add u have been approved! u can
download the files now.. happy downloading!!!
june: sorry for the delayed response.. i've checked it and it's working..
try joining the group again!
take care all!
june
IP: 203.168.166.150
May 15th, 2004 - 6:38 AM
Re: '99 Concert
Rowena hello!! It's okey, it's better late than never.....I'll try it now
then I'll give you my feedback if it will not work still....thanks!
june
IP: 61.10.7.150
May 15th, 2004 - 7:07 AM
Re: '99 Concert
Rowena, the page is still unavailable
jack
IP: 68.81.218.112
May 15th, 2004 - 7:13 AM
Re: '99 Concert
thanks rowena!
rowena
IP: 202.70.106.121
May 15th, 2004 - 10:00 AM
Re: '99 Concert
jack: welcome!
june: the page is working coz i tried it.. i dnt know why it is
unavailable for you. hmmm... here's a guide for you to join the group. i
triedit with my other email and it worked! hope this works for u. it's
actually the same procedure as i've stated b4 but i'll repeat it for you..
for the 1st group:
1) this is the link:
http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/mui99concert
2) when sends, 'mui 99 concert main page will be displayed'. click 'Join
this group'!
3) after clicking 'Join this group' a new page will be displayed asking u
to sign in with ur YAHOO ID and PW then send
4) after sending it, it will go to the groups membership form fill it up
then to send it just click the 'Join' button at the end of that word
verification.
5) after sending it this will be displayed ir ur monitor. "Your
membership request has been submitted to the group mui99concert!
You will receive a confirmation email when your membership has been
approved. " All u need is my confirmation. After my confirmation, you
can now download the files located at 'Files'.. that's it!
take care all!
june
IP: 203.168.166.150
May 15th, 2004 - 11:02 PM
Re: '99 Concert
Hi Rowena, thank you so much for taking time to response....I already made
it, it was my mistake, i input the wrong Yahoo ID
....Sorry for the inconvenience....and again thank you, hopefully you will
approve my application
..Have a nice day!
rowena
IP: 202.70.100.92
May 15th, 2004 - 11:49 PM
Re: '99 Concert
june: welcome!
fans that their email add listed below had beed approved. (jaz go to FILES
to start downloading)
for mui99concert group:
skippy14340@sbcglobal.net
geminijune70@yahoo.com
angelcheung2002@hotmail.com
for mui99concert_2 group:
fblin@pacbell.net
WELCOME and happy downloading!
Angel
IP: 81.164.240.99
May 16th, 2004 - 1:18 AM
Re: '99 Concert
Thank you Rowena for your help, I will try to download, I gave up
downloading for long time, because the pc that I'm using, has always
problems, hope this time I have luck. Thank you again !
june
IP: 61.10.7.150
May 16th, 2004 - 8:12 AM
Re: '99 Concert
Rowena hello again and thank you, I was able to download only 1, the rest
cannot be, I tried again downloading the 1st one still okey then all the
rest still cannot be..the third time all cannot be
...please help!
xixo88
IP: 202.169.43.7
May 16th, 2004 - 9:01 PM
Re: '99 Concert
Hi Rowena,
I also experienced problem downloading. I was authorized for mui concert
in April and mui concert 2 last week.
For both link, I was experiencing problem downloading. I only managed to
download one song. The message said that I was not authorized to do it.
It seems that many people are experiencing the same problems. Well, I'll
try again. Thanks.
Over 2 days I was able to get all except #21 and 22, there I still get the
unable to download/not available/try later message. I feel when watching
it that I'm at home and my friend is at the concert sending it to me over
the mobile phone! I'm so glad to have it though. If you can plug your
computer into a good stereo you will find that the low bass has somehow
made it through the Windows Media compression relatively undamaged and
gives the performance a sense of space and reality, a happy surprise. Some
day I will write for pages & pages about how much I like Anita's bass
players.
I'm really curious about one thing: How many of you get the musical joke
in track 3 which is "Sook Nui" (Virgin)(?) Somebody took the
intro from the Madonna song "Papa Don't Preach" and made it the
intro and A section of Sook Nui, or, for you math students out there,
"mapped" Sook Nui onto Papa Don't Preach for the first verse.
Does anyone else notice this, or is it like Stephen Chow humor that only
makes sense in Cantonese? The joke might even go back further, on the CD
version of Sook Nui, Mui begins with a wild laugh, just like the laugh
Madonna starts the song "Angel" with, from the "Like A
Virgin" album. Who thinks up this stuff? Amazing!
I don't know what's the problem can be, but I still can't download. I can
only download the first clip on muiconcert and also first clip on
muiconcert2. The rest are either unauthorized or can't connect to server.
hello all! sorry for this late reply.. woah!!! u all have probs in
downloading it.. *sigh*
just use this account to sign in..
username:iluvyeohmui
password
ownload99
note: pls only use that account when ur downloading. if u guys and gals
wanted to post or upload something on the group use ur own membership
account. thanks!
Jack
IP: 64.178.98.10
May 27th, 2004 - 3:11 PM
Re: '99 Concert
thank you so much rowena
june
IP: 203.168.166.150
May 30th, 2004 - 9:19 PM
Re: '99 Concert
Rowena hi! Thank you so much!
I was able to see 5 clips already...and still counting...
Have a great day!
rowena
IP: 202.70.106.176
May 31st, 2004 - 7:25 AM
Re: '99 Concert
june and jack: your very much welcome! take a bunch of care always..
june
IP: 203.168.166.150
May 31st, 2004 - 9:32 AM
Re: '99 Concert
Rowena hi again to you!! How about for the Muiconcert 2, how can we watch
it???? What's the username and password??? 'Just finished watching the
first batch....Anita is really the BEST!
Woodstock where was the '99 concert held??? Cause it seems she's so
intimate with the audience and I remember you telling us that you get to
shake hands with Anita here a lot of times, which I saw on the video
clips, she's been throwing her pictures? And shaking hands with the crowd
while singing a medley of all her love songs...Wow!!! Were you able to
catch/get a picture of her? I guess if the reception is just clear, we'll
get to see you there
right?
Thanks and have a nice day all!!!
AT
IP: 68.126.124.2
May 31st, 2004 - 1:53 PM
Re: '99 Concert
Me too.
I am wondering how to go to 99 concert part 2. Please tell us. Thank you.
FB
IP: 67.118.253.141
May 31st, 2004 - 7:49 PM
Re: '99 Concert
First off all, try the same password Rowena gave us for the first group,
but if you can't get to the files, then you haven't applied for and
received your membership yet. I was able to finally get all the files
after trying many times, using my own password.
The concert is terrific! Maybe my favorite sounding band and arrangements
of all the concerts. I can't wait to get it in a full fidelity version.
I have a treat tonight, I found a friend who has a working Betamax machine
and I'll be able to watch the '87-'88 concert and transfer it to regular
videotape.
June: All Mui's open concerts, except Mui Music Show, were held at HK
Coliseum, so was 1999 concert.
I didn't have such luck for that concert to sit in the 1st row. I was
sitting in the first row in her farewell concert in 1992.
rowena
IP: 202.70.100.99
Jun 1st, 2004 - 9:48 AM
Re: '99 Concert
june & AT: u can use the same username and password just like in the
first group. when u are already log in go to MY GROUPS located at the
upper right of the page beside START A GROUP. when you click it, it will
go to the list of groups. You can see mui99concert2 at the upper left of
the page together with the first group.
FB & to all of you who have seen it: what's ur fave clips/song in the
99concert? my faves are 6, 11, 20 and 21 (tho like 'em all). hope to have
lyrics of 11, 20 and 21.
take care all!
FB
IP: 67.118.252.237
Jun 2nd, 2004 - 12:57 AM
Re: '99 Concert
My most favorite is the sequence 26-27-28, especially the Industrial/Goth
music style "Breaking Ice Mountain", and the Mandarin song
following. The background vocal harmony parts are delicious. Number 7-8-9
I like very much, 7 sounds like a Brazilian song, very sophisticated. The
color scheme and lighting in number 14 and Anita's outfit are wonderful,
and the new harmonic arrangement of 15, wow! I guess what I like most is
the music is high energy with great tone and volume from the drums and
bass, while being soft in the right spots so Anita can be heard, and the
brilliant backup singing.
Anita looks very sophisticated and grown-up, with her short haircut, and I
get an impression that she feels a bit lonely and carrying the weight of
the world on her shoulders in this show, although I may be wrong because
it is hard to see her face distinctly. Then, in Fantasy Gig she looks like
something good has happened, she is at peace and child-like.
When I watched the '87-'88 concert I kept watching the credits all the way
to the end, and they were in English (surprise!) enough to see that Ah
Mui's sister Ann was listed in the background chorus! Did you know this,
and did Ann sing with Anita's other shows, do you know?
Hello to all!!!
Woodstock thanks for the info you gave about Anita's venue of her
concerts...
FB lucky you! to be able to watch her '87-'88 concert....if you'll convert
it one day to VCD, please, please don't forget me...I'll ask for a copy...okey?
Thanx in advance...
Rowena, thank you, I was able to get in already, but the problem is line
is busy so temporarily it stopped...but I'll get back to it later
tonight....
GOD BLESS US ALWAYS!!!!!!!
SEAN
IP: 172.199.2.9
Jun 5, 04 - 4:30 PM
my biggest regret
Hi everyone
i just watch last Anita Mui concert 2003 which is recently published. I
just can't stop myself crying. I cry really, really really hard which i
have not done for my whole life. Although I know Anita Mui wants all her
fans to move on and be positive, I just can't do it. I am still in a
process of greiving. I miss her so much.It is really painful
I have never seen her live concert which becomes my biggest regret. I am a
poor person who have never able to afford to buy tickets. When I watch the
dvd cd, I wonder why I was not there. If I can turn back time, I wish I
were one of you guys who was screaming the lung out or holding up the
banner up high, or waving the neon sticks . You know I really want to say
thank to her. She has changed my life in many ways. Now, I love my family,
friends or job more than ever because of her. She told us cherish
everything. I have tried really hard living to fullest everyday. Thank
you, Anita. Thank you for teaching me how to be a better person. i'll take
my tears back, do more charitable work to continue your legacy because I
don't want another regret in my life. One is enough
Sean: understand your regret. But if you are inspired by Mui to be a
better person, she will be proud of you, because she always tried to do
her best to be a role model for us, and tried to bring us many positive
messages. Let's all remember her words and work for a better tomorrow!
Article from HKVP Radio dated
5/25/04: Anita Mui, Number one and only!
Hello All,
Just wanted to share this article posted on Hong Kong Vintage Pop Radio
dated on 5/25/04. MUI IS THE BEST AND NUMBER ONE ALWAYS!
http://www.hkvpradio.com/artists/anitamui/
Angel
IP: 81.165.86.253
May 26th, 2004 - 8:01 AM
Re: Article from HKVP Radio dated 5/25/04: Anita Mui, Number one and
only!
Sheila, thank you very much for sharing !
june
IP: 203.168.166.150
May 26th, 2004 - 8:26 AM
Re: Article from HKVP Radio dated 5/25/04: Anita Mui, Number one and
only!
Sheila I read it too and I'm so proud of Anita, as I'm proud of myself
too, for I chose the BEST....SIMPLY THE BEST!!!!!!!!!!!!
Woodstock
IP: 218.103.198.207
May 26th, 2004 - 9:04 AM
Re: Article from HKVP Radio dated 5/25/04: Anita Mui, Number one and
only!
Shiela: Thanks for the article, tomorrow I will upload to the website as
not all readers come to this forum.
I'm proud of myself too, as I have good taste, Mui is my only idol
Sheila
IP: 208.185.156.233
May 26th, 2004 - 9:51 AM
Re: Article from HKVP Radio dated 5/25/04: Anita Mui, Number one and
only!
Hello All, you are all welcome but you do not have to thank me. I want to
share with you all, the greatest and the best our Mui.
Dear Woodstock, thank you for continuing to post all articles about Mui. I
truly appreciate it.
AT
IP: 68.126.124.2
May 27th, 2004 - 5:31 AM
Re: Article from HKVP Radio dated 5/25/04: Anita Mui, Number one and
only!
To Woodstock
I am wondering you do not want to correct some mistakes in the HKVP Radio
article?
Her debut hit was DEBTS OF THE HEART not Homecoming.
She won Best Supporting Actress in BEHIND THE YELLOW LINE not Rumble in
the Bronx.
Farewell concert was not in 1990 but in 1991-92 and she performed not 33
but 30. Not concesutive days, either.
86-87 concert was not consecutively 28 performancees.
There are other miner mistakes. Am I too nervous to set the reacord
straight?
Woodstock
IP: 219.77.168.102
May 27th, 2004 - 7:54 AM
Re: Article from HKVP Radio dated 5/25/04: Anita Mui, Number one and
only!
AT:
You are absolutely correct
I knew some information was wrong in this article, but since it is by HKVP
Radio, I was wondering if I should correct it, just as I was wondering
about those foreign media articles when there was wrong information. But
normally I won't correct it.
But, this is a local, and prominent radio station, (I assume this article
is not by listerers) some of the errors are really unexecusable, I have
corrected as you suggested.
Thank you very much, AT!
Sheila
IP: 208.185.156.233
May 27th, 2004 - 9:50 AM
Re: Article from HKVP Radio dated 5/25/04: Anita Mui, Number one and
only!
Dear Woodstock and All,
Here are more articles from HK Vintage Pop Radio. One article is senitive
and sad so please decide if you like to post it. The article is
understanding Anita's Choices with Cervical Cancer by Cassie Kwok dated
5/17/04.
The second article is in Chinese however it has been translated by Teresa
at HK Pop Radio dated 5/26/04.
http://hk.news.yahoo.com/040525/60/10fou.html (Chinese version)
http://www.hkvpradio.com/ (translated in English, scroll to articles dated
5/26/04)
Thank you very much for all your posting and always keeping us inform.
Sheila
Woodstock
IP: 218.103.202.32
May 27th, 2004 - 5:11 PM
Re: Article from HKVP Radio dated 5/25/04: Anita Mui, Number one and
only!
Shiela: Thanks for more links, but I would not upload in our website lar.
The first one I would not post not because it was sensitive, but I feel
whatever the writer said was based on her own thinking, her own
speculation or things she read in other papers, totally with no proof. I
have never saw any real medical reports from the doctors, and Mui herself
never told us the history of her cancer herself and etc. And the reason
she was seeking Chinese medical treatment at first was all explained
clearly by hersefl in the book "Heart of Modern Woman"....not as
those people said she wanted to have children blar blar....just their own
assuption.
This writer really had to do more research before she can convince me to
believe whatever she said. Even her describing about how long Ann Mui
suffered from her uterus cancer was so doubtful. 15 years? How could she
had her 2 sons then?
Do you know one of the causes of cervical cancer could be too early sexual
relation or too frequent sex partners? Once Mui admitted she had cervical
cancer, what people would think about her? She could always tell us she
got whatever cancer she suffered, maybe just womb cancer, she didn't have
to tell us the truth. Why she had to bear those implied humiliation
inflicted on her by telling pubic the truth? Kwok questioned Mui's
bravery.....humm.......I really wonder how brave Kwok is. I saw a Chinese
critic review on a medical book praising Mui for being brave to admit
cervical cancer, because those implied humiliations from any illness is
more difficult to bear than physical pain. Just as when one suffers from
aids, normal people would immediatley look at him/her differently instead
of trying to understand what is the real cause and etc. So just imagine
how courageous is Mui to admit she got cervical cancer.
Kowk is only using Mui to tell people to seek treatment early if one has
cervical cancer. But I really don't think she should mention too many
things about Mui when she has never really had proof of whatever she said
about Mui. Anyway, I always have
for professional ethics of media people of HK nowadays, maybe I'm bias.
About the other article, I saw in Chinese newspaper too. I didn't upload
because I think people were just using Mui to promote the concert. Never
heard some of those stories when Mui was alive, why not earlier or later
but just when he was having the concert. Our website will definitely not
be used for promoting other people, but Mui only.
AT
IP: 68.126.124.2
May 28th, 2004 - 4:24 AM
Re: Article from HKVP Radio dated 5/25/04: Anita Mui, Number one and
only!
Hi Sheila and Woodstock,
I agree with you, Woodstock.
Here is my reaction after I read Cassie Kwok’s article. I was thinking
about Anita’s demise past five months. At first I had an impression that
she chose a slow suicide because it is said she refused treatment. I did
not want to jump to a conclusion without doing any research and that,
somehow, did not fit Anita I thought I knew. But I was not a die hard
Anita fan. Thanks this great website and other Anita’s sites for helping
me to understand her. As a writer, I try to gather as many information as
possible and to sort out what are reliable and what are not. She knew her
illness around in 1999 or 2000 and got a cancer report in December of
2002. She sought out a Chinese treatment. She was devastated by Leslie’s
sudden death and she devoted in producing 1:99 concert. I read Eddie
Lau’s article and HEART OF MODERN WOMAN. I also saw TVB video clips
which covered before and after Classic Moment Live. She did not look like
a terminal cancer patient. Was she deceived all of us? My conclusion is
what a noble warrior she was!
People can say anything when they know the end result. It is easy to
speculate about it. But they often made a big mistake. That is their
assumptions are based on their standard. They think a longer life is
better than a shorter one. If Anita received proper western treatment at
early stage of her illness, she would have had a longer life. Yes, that is
a quite possible. However, we do not know she would be cured completely or
not. Having a longer life dose not mean good, either. What if she is in
and out of a hospital rest of her life. What if she cannot sing or perform
as she wishes. Would she want to be like that? In fact, Anita wrote to
Eddie Lau that “Life in this world is just a dream, all is fated. I only
wish to be with my best friends, even it is so short, but some wonderful
and glamorous time.”
I think we should remember her by how she fulfilled her life. How she
became a super star, how she treated people, how she fought back all
rumors, how she handled unpleasant situations, how she generous was, how
she showed professionalism, how she performed the last concert, and how
great artist she was, Anita left us a lot of unforgettable songs and
memories. The way she lived was an inspiration. She never complain about
her illness. No one can live like Anita did, especially her last year.
By the way, I read that if a woman has a sexual relationship with a
promiscuous man, it may cause cervical cancer as well. I know it is true
because of my friend. It is very unfortunate that cervical cancer implied
being promiscuous woman.
After I read Kwok’s article, I had to read James Wong’s [Entertainment
Industry’s Legendary Girl – Anita Mui] to feel good. I smiled in the
middle and then cried.
dana
IP: 218.111.6.153
May 28th, 2004 - 7:28 AM
Re: Article from HKVP Radio dated 5/25/04: Anita Mui, Number one and
only!
Ive read that article, Woodstock and it is not worth mentioning. It is an
insult to Anita as to what the lady was implying.[sorry Angel, June, Ill
concentrate on my studies after explaining some important facts here, dont
spank me, Angel ok?
The Human PapillomaVirus is responsible for at least 95% of cervical
cancer. When exposed to HPV the immune system in most women prevents the
virus from causing harm. But in a small number of women, the virus can
live for years and eventually converts cells on the cervix into cancer
cells.
These cellular changes happen very slowly. At first, the cells only show
signs of a viral infection. Later they become precancerous and eventually
progress to invasive cervical cancer.
Almost all women will have HPV at some point but very few will develop
cervical cancer. Most HPV infections are temporary and will go away on
their own. An HPV infection that does not go away over a period of years
might lead to cervical cancer.
Another great factor for cervical cancer is DES-a hormone associated with
developing a rare type of cervical cancer called the 'clear-cell' variety
taken by the patient's mother during pregnancy.[Anita's Ma had recovered
from cervical cancer at one time and taken into consideration, she had
Anita in her forties]
Im sure by now Ive made it clear to all, that cervical cancer patients
does not simply means they are promiscuous women.
Back to my studies, Woodstock
Sheila
IP: 208.185.156.233
May 28th, 2004 - 10:00 AM
Re: Article from HKVP Radio dated 5/25/04: Anita Mui, Number one and
only!
Sorry, if I upset anyone by providing the links. I adv it was a very
sensitive article. I only wanted to let you know what is being said out
there. My sincere apology.
Woodstock, thank you providing a great website to us so we can remember,
love and cherish Mui.
ML
IP: 219.95.149.190
May 28th, 2004 - 5:16 PM
Re: Article from HKVP Radio dated 5/25/04: Anita Mui, Number one and
only!
C'mon gals, no need to get so upset. We're in 21st century and the mention
of 'sexually active' doesn't sound promiscuous to me (as a man) at all. It
could mean also with the same partner at one time or throughout her life.
Maybe you gals are bit conservative and traditional type of women or maybe
because of the pressures from guys that you think it is not right to say
so. For whatever it is, we all know Anita is a true woman who believes in
true love, and who will give up anything for the man she loves. Just try
to think about her former boyfriends, how possibly can she be a two-timer?
As for her former boyfriends, I believe most of them were two-timers,
three-timers, and so forth.
So, why not just forget about the unjustified comment by that so-called
admirer of Anita. Same as Woodstock, I was impressed by Anita's bravery to
disclose her cancer publicly. Since she had no fear to reveal it, she
didn't need to bother others' speculations on the real cause leading to
her cancer.
Maybe our western friend, FB to share his view as well if he is still
around and ready to contribute his thought.
(P/s: Kill me with whatever tools you have. I can take it.
)
Angel
IP: 81.165.119.87
May 28th, 2004 - 5:52 PM
Re: Article from HKVP Radio dated 5/25/04: Anita Mui, Number one and
only!
ML, I'm not agree with your words about "a bit conservative and
traditional type of women or maybe because of the pressures from guys that
you think it is not right to say".
Woodstock
IP: 218.103.206.154
May 28th, 2004 - 5:56 PM
Re: Article from HKVP Radio dated 5/25/04: Anita Mui, Number one and
only!
Shiela: don't worry, and no need to say sorry. I have read many articles
like Kwok's just after Mui just passed away, and we had discussion in this
forum too as some fans thought it was wrong that Mui refused western
treatment at the beginning. But surprised that after Mui passed 5 months,
that Kwok still wrote on such a topic while she should have had 5 months
to do research on cervical cancer and after-effects of cancer treatment,
and on Anita Mui herself.
Actually, Shiela, thanks for let us read the article, so that we can have
a chance to straighten people's mind again.
AT, Dana: Fully agree to you both, especially AT, excellently said about
Mui.
In fact, different person has different view towards life and death, also
each one aims at different standard of life. How inconsiderate it is if
one wants to impose one's own standard of life and philosophy of life on
another person, espeicially when Mui is regarded my HK people as
"Daughter of Hong Kong", a herione, but what most of us are? so
petite compared to Mui. It is rather difficult for ordinary people to
understand the noble thoughts of a heroine.
Talking about cancer, if it can be cured so easily, or 100% it will not be
categorized as Terminal disease. Also how a patient's body reacts to
treatment is different, some might recover better, some might not. So a
patient has to deal with his own physical and emotional factors before he
decides to seek the radio or chemo treatment. In case, you do not know, as
some of you are new fans of Mui, actually Mui was a physically very weak
person, used to get sick easily. Personally I think if she started western
treatment at the very beginning, really wonder how many treatment she
could sustain, and she might not even last that long, the possibility of a
farewell concert could me minimal too, because each radio and chemo
treatment would only make her weaker.
For more information on treatment of cervical cancer, you can refer to
archives of this forum or go direct to the link
http://www.chicagogyn.com/cervical.htm
Anyway, as AT said just let us respect Mui's decision, marvel at Mui's
great personality, cherish at her achievement, her great work she left us.
AT, you are right James Wong's article is really very touching and
sincere.
Woodstock
IP: 218.103.206.154
May 28th, 2004 - 6:33 PM
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ML: I think you got us wrong, we are not upset, we are just talking about
"it is very unfortunate that cervical cancer implied being
promiscuous woman. " - quote from AT. So the humiliation Mui might
get because people might think she was that type of woman, if they don't
try to understand there are many other causes of cervical cancer.
I brought this point up in my past message just want to show how brave and
courageous Mui was to declare her disease to the public, despite that she
might be thought of being promiscuous. It really has nothing to do about
our opinion about sex life or whatever.
Also "sextually active" is entirely different from promiscuous.
A girl definitely wouldn't like be thought as promiscuous. And I don't
think any normal guy would love to date a promiscuous girl . At least I
wouldn't if I were a man.
dana
IP: 218.111.1.94
May 28th, 2004 - 9:16 PM
Re: Article from HKVP Radio dated 5/25/04: Anita Mui, Number one and
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Hi! Sheila, no apologies needed here, you did nothing wrong, ok? That lady
needed to read up more on cervical cancer, understanding it and how it
affects individuals. Secondly, Anita is a well-known celebrity therefore
that lady ought to do more research on Anita's past history in all
directions before writing that article.
How about that, ML?
Are we LADIES being concervative and traditional? How typical of a MALE,
ML. The main topic here is about the implication of promiscuous women
linking to cervical cancer patients, nothing to do w/sexually active.
Consult your female partner if you do have one.[no insult intended here,ok!]
Woodstock, you have my vote regarding your last para..hee..hee..hee
Wheres the article on James Wong, Woodstock?
Enjoy your discussions, everyone. I really have to go!
ML
IP: 218.208.237.160
May 28th, 2004 - 9:17 PM
Re: Article from HKVP Radio dated 5/25/04: Anita Mui, Number one and
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Woodstock, thanks for correcting me. Actually, I have never associated
cervical cancer with promiscuous woman. Don't see any reason people would
think of Anita as promiscuous woman. Neither would I think a woman with
that cancer as promiscuous woman. Similarly, for AIDS patients, I don't
see any reason I shall despise them.
When I read that article, I may be uncomfortable but I don't think her
comment to the extent that she insulted Anita as promiscuous woman. Maybe
because I'm not a woman.....Dana has her points and reasons to get upset
and to make things right by giving her precise medical facts, which I
applauded.
For me, nobody including me can accurately judge a woman as promiscuous
woman. At least I know, I've no rights to perceive them that way. All
human beings including sex workers have pride too. My perception for women
changes with time as I grow older.
Of course Woodstock, I do agree with you.
My apologies for offending readers here again.
AT
IP: 68.126.124.2
May 28th, 2004 - 11:53 PM
Re: Article from HKVP Radio dated 5/25/04: Anita Mui, Number one and
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Sheila, you do not have to apologize.
I just wanted to say regarding Kwok’s article that if she writes
something about someone, she should not measure or judge him/her with her
standard. Her standard is not applied to everybody. Foe example, if
someone is very famous, what ordinary people think normal can be abnormal
to him/her. Anita Mui had a clear idea of life and death and she
accomplished what she wanted to do before leaving us. That is the most
remarkable thing anyone, famous or not, can do.
Dana, you can read James Wong‘s article at this link.
http://archives.mui-mui.org/article01a.htm
Woodstock, did I tell you that I am your secret admirer? You summed up
what I want to say. And thanks for Floence Chan's articles.Look forward to
reading others.
dana
IP: 218.111.0.72
May 29th, 2004 - 5:04 AM
Re: Article from HKVP Radio dated 5/25/04: Anita Mui, Number one and
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Had to make a final detour back to thank you, ML for your compliment and
AT for the link to that article.
No apologies needed from you too, ML. In fact, had to praise you for being
the only male, brave enough to join in, in such a sensitive and feminine
subject. You are one special kind of gentleman, ML
you have a 'secret admirer', Woodstock, I envy you!
Woodstock
IP: 218.103.250.147
May 29th, 2004 - 8:03 AM
Re: Article from HKVP Radio dated 5/25/04: Anita Mui, Number one and
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ML: You are right Kwok's comment didn't imply Mui being promiscuous, but
she queried about Mui's bravery and courage. So I brought up the topic
that Mui was being praised for being brave and courageous to admit to the
public that she had cervical cancer by a Chinese critic on a medical book,
about certian causes of certain disease could bring wrong impression of
the patient.
As Dana said, no need apology, because we don't feel being offended at
all, and every one is welcome to express their view.
AT: Thanks so much, I feel so flattered. I'm going to faint. I have
already registered at HKVP radio forum, I intend to write something
against that Kwok's article
Dana: Don't get jealous, but really very impressed that my secret admirer
is a very educated, smart lady with insigt.
See you always push me to do this and that, but you never finished reading
all the stuff in the web yet
BTW, you'd better go back to your study.
FB
IP: 67.118.252.122
May 29th, 2004 - 3:18 PM
Re: Article from HKVP Radio dated 5/25/04: Anita Mui, Number one and
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Sheila, thank you for provoking discussion of the Kwok article, because of
course I saw it when it first came out and I got so upset and depressed
that I wanted to just shut up and not post for a while. It seemed just
such a giant step backwards, after all our discussion of Nirvana, and the
true nature of life and death. Like Ms. Kwok is going to catch the
butterfly and say "Go back, you owe us five more years as a
caterpillar" She says--Anita didn't have to die, no, maybe she could
have lived 5 more years, but maybe disabled in some way or other, she
could adopt a child...how Anita is somehow not brave. Can you imagine
being that child and having to say goodbye to your mother after 4,5,6
years, when your mother is Anita Mui? All of us are like that child, the
choice Anita made was to spare us that suffering.
There are many famous people here who have had cancer or other disabling
conditions and have been treated, its like signing a bad contract with CA
or a loan shark, sure you're alive, but "cancer survivor" always
appears next to your name from then on, you are expected to be a
'spokesman' and fund raiser for cancer, to appear with sick kids, if you
refuse you look like a jerk, if you go along then the pain of all these
sick kids and other people inevitably enters the collective experience of
your art work and poisons the way it will be perceived 10-20-50 years from
now and forever. There are bad people, even religions, who would love to
say: "See, even the most beautiful, most kind, wealthy, and sexy girl
can be destroyed and be made to suffer! Look what happened to Bad Girl! It
can happen to you! Don't get too proud! Obey us!" Of course the
tabloid press loves stuff like this, it's their food, they search for
every scrap of Anita's pain, amplify it and show it to us, we suffer in
sympathy, (and there are very many of us), and this would hurt Mui Jei
more than anything real that is happening in her own body. It may not seem
so now for some people, but the way Anita took control of her destiny in
her last two years of her life to preserve the memory of her art and life
and keep it pure and beautiful for us, and keep it out of the hands of the
cancer-vampires and nasty press, is truly inspirational. She is my hero!
Like so many have said, the total length of a life is not really that
important. Like a perfectly cut diamond the size of a hen's egg, compared
to one the size of a goose egg, but with an ugly flaw in one side, which
is better? The goose egg, you attract admirers with the good side, then
turn the ugly side facing to scare children, or to use as some kind of
'moral lesson', or just chop it up to sell as 200 ordinary engagement
rings, the hen's egg diamond is smaller, sure, but still extraordinary,
huge, and perfect from all sides forever.
AT: I borrowed your summary for the conclusion for the article I posted
there. Thank you!
Also I posted yesterday my review of the concert at the forum of hkvpradio
under the section of Anita Mui in Memoriam. Not many Mui fans left message
there.
Cheers!
Sheila
IP: 64.12.117.13
May 30th, 2004 - 8:55 AM
Re: Article from HKVP Radio dated 5/25/04: Anita Mui, Number one and
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Dear Woodstock, Dana, AT, FB
Thank you all for being understanding.
Dear FB, Mui is also my hero too and she is all of our hero. I will always
cherish, respect and love Mui.
june
IP: 61.10.7.150
May 30th, 2004 - 9:18 PM
Re: Article from HKVP Radio dated 5/25/04: Anita Mui, Number one and
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Woodstock hi! 'just read your postings in hkvp
Cheers!
AT
IP: 68.126.124.2
May 31st, 2004 - 1:55 PM
Re: Article from HKVP Radio dated 5/25/04: Anita Mui, Number one and
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Woodstock, I read your postings. Well said.
Woodstock
IP: 218.103.202.230
May 31st, 2004 - 5:28 PM
Re: Article from HKVP Radio dated 5/25/04: Anita Mui, Number one and
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AT: Thanks. Will concentrate more in translating from now on
Audrey
IP: 210.24.117.8
May 31st, 2004 - 5:47 PM
Re: Article from HKVP Radio dated 5/25/04: Anita Mui, Number one and
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Woodstock - your posting is very well said indeed!
Woodstock
IP: 218.103.195.80
Jun 1st, 2004 - 3:46 AM
Re: Article from HKVP Radio dated 5/25/04: Anita Mui, Number one and
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Thanks Audrey.
Woodstock
IP: 219.76.64.3
Jun 2nd, 2004 - 7:37 AM
Re: Article from HKVP Radio dated 5/25/04: Anita Mui, Number one and
only!
About my posting at the forum of HKVP Raido, the writer came to give a
reply trying to give some explanation. She said she wrote the article
within days after Mui pased away, and she did have many questions, and she
didn't have an answer for those questions and till today she still doesn't
understand.....blar bla.......
I don't blame her for not understanding Mui, as I already said ordinary
people won't undertand Mui, also if she doesn't try to understand Mui, her
background, her culture and most important her religion, but insists on
her own belief, how will she be able to understand the thoughts of Mui?
Never mind, I wouldn't bother to reply her. But I'm glad that lots of
readers reading my comment, at least they should know there are some
different opnions from the writer, and hopefull they will be convinced by
me that we should respect other people's decision and life philosophy.
For your imformation, the writer is a very active participant of that
forum, her posting appeared under all threads, about 220 postings till
today. She is married with husband and children, right now maybe full time
taking care of her kids. Sounds quite an arrogant person by her reply to
my comment as still defending herself, though in a polite way
..same as telling us she respects Mui but condemning her decision.......my
comment on her article might become a setback on her credibility in that
forum. But I do think people have to be responsible for whatever they say
especially when it will affect the image of a well respected person, like
Mui who has already passed away and can't even defend herself.
AT
IP: 68.126.124.2
Jun 2nd, 2004 - 11:15 PM
Re: Article from HKVP Radio dated 5/25/04: Anita Mui, Number one and
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To Woodstock:
Well, some people are impossible to comprehend that there are many ways of
living. I simply do not want to be near them. There is no argument or
understanding with them because for them there is only limited way, his or
her way. I see them insensitive, inexperienced, narrow-mind, arrogant,
non-compassionate whom I do not want to be although in a way they seem to
be lucky to see their lives are so simple.
Audrey
IP: 210.24.117.8
Jun 3rd, 2004 - 1:00 AM
Re: Article from HKVP Radio dated 5/25/04: Anita Mui, Number one and
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I came across the following on an inspiration poster the other day:
People are often unreasonable, illogical and self-centered; forgive them
anyway.
If you are kind, people may accuse you of being selfish and having
ulterior motive; be kind anyway.
If you are successful, you will win some false friends and some true
enemies; succeed anyway.
What you spend years building, someone may try to destroy overnight; build
anyway.
If you are honest and frank, people may cheat you; be honest and frank
anyway.
The good you do today, people will often forget tomorrow; do good anyway.
Give the world the best you have and it may never be enough; give the
world the best you have anyway.
Our beloved Anita has done/achieved all the above!
Woodstock
IP: 218.103.250.199
Jun 3rd, 2004 - 7:33 AM
Re: Article from HKVP Radio dated 5/25/04: Anita Mui, Number one and
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AT: I'm so glad to hear your opinion about that type of people, so that I
know I'm not bias......right now it seems that they are lucky, but when
there is crisis, with their attitude, I really wonder how they can survive
with courage and bravery. Can't even make head or tail, and can't face the
music.......naive!
Audrey: I like your quote so much. Certainly Mui fits into the description
best.
AT
IP: 68.126.124.2
Jun 4th, 2004 - 1:03 AM
Re: Article from HKVP Radio dated 5/25/04: Anita Mui, Number one and
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Hi Audrey, that is a great quote. Certainly I imaged Anita while reading
it. Thank you for sharing.
Thank you Woodstock for Ming Pao Weekly all Florence Chan’s articles and
#1238 translations. (Now it seems like you will remove #1238. I cannot
access it.) I think Florence did not understand Anita well enough
regarding episode. Florence should have told Anita about hotel booking
beforehand, then, there would not have been trouble. She did not know
Anita’s character. Florence seemed thought about Leslie first because
she knew he would not mind to stay at a better hotel than crew. As a
whole, they are interesting articles to know some background about Anita
in early years at Capital Artists.
As for #1238, I was very glad to read it although I should have saved it
for my research purpose. I know it was a touchy subject but that incidence
was a fact. I wanted to know more about it. Is it possible to send it me?
Re: Article from HKVP Radio dated 5/25/04: Anita Mui, Number one and
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AT: don't worry about Florence. I do think she is bias towards Leslie, as
we know she remains to be one of the best friends of Leslie throughout his
life. Even our 10 fingers are of different length, so really nothing wrong
if she shows favoritsim towards Leslie. When 2 women are good in the same
area, or Mui even better, usally can't get along too well, very normal to
me.
About the article at Ming 1238, I didn't remove it. It was under the
Nostalgia interview. No matter it sounded like a rumor, but I do believe
Mui was some what a very innocent victim of the whole thing and unfairly
treated. You would never hear her mentioning this incident again, at least
I don't remember, okay except by media after her demise. Personally I
believe this is the incident reverted her previous decision and affected
her life afterwards. This is only my wild guess. AT, I think you will be
able to put all the stories together, and you'll come to the same
conclusion as I do.
AT
IP: 68.126.124.2
Jun 4th, 2004 - 4:43 PM
Re: Article from HKVP Radio dated 5/25/04: Anita Mui, Number one and
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Woodstock, I have some newspaper clippings about the incident although I
cannot read Chinese. I get a vague meaning of them by my limited Chinese
characters knowledge and wild guessing (Sorry for my bad English. Hope you
understand what I mean). Whatever the media wrote, I conclude it as you
do. It was an unfortunate for Anita that she was a bad place at the bad
time. Now I consider it as I will not put her on a pedestal because I do
not think her as an angel or a Goddess but a human being. However, I
cannot help praising her how she got up again and again, and each time she
grew as a better person.
As an entertainer, she is a Goddess. Last night I saw 86-87, 90 and 95
concerts as well as 92 farewell world tour karaoke version. Three concerts
were not karaoke versions so that I could see Anita only. I saw them a
number of times, even so, I moved by her performance again. In my mind
Anita is always with me.
Re: Article from HKVP Radio dated 5/25/04: Anita Mui, Number one and
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AT hello to you! Nicely said....I agree with you and Woodstock. By the
way, is the concerts you mentioned, except 1995 cause I already have it,
available there in the state where you lived? If it is, I'd like to ask a
very big favor from you, please buy them all for me......
...I'll wait for your response first then everything will just follow like
my payment with you and etc....
..Again, thanks in advance for your reply....Have a wonderful weekend to
you and everyone!!!
AT
IP: 68.126.124.2
Jun 4th, 2004 - 9:56 PM
Re: Article from HKVP Radio dated 5/25/04: Anita Mui, Number one and
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I realize some word are missing in my previous posting.
Now I consider it as sort of
June, I have those concerts in LDs and a copy tape of 1991 Farewell
concert MTV (92 world tour karaoke) from a rental LD a long time ago. The
shop is gone now. I know I should make DVD copies of my collection soon.
Re: Article from HKVP Radio dated 5/25/04: Anita Mui, Number one and
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Hi Woodstock & AT, glad that you both like the quote..
Woodstock
IP: 218.103.206.34
Jun 5th, 2004 - 6:15 PM
Re: Article from HKVP Radio dated 5/25/04: Anita Mui, Number one and
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AT:
Exactly, she is just a human being like you and me, that is why I respect
and adore her so much, because I guess I would never be able to handle or
go through the crisis she went through. With her fighting spirit, with her
courage and bravery, she refused to succumb but had beaten the evil
forces. Though she suffered more than anyone else, she is the final
winner. You know she had the spirit and stubbornness , "You want to
see me die, I won't die because of you".....that has kept her going
on throughout her life. She is truly a die-hard fighter.
Also you will notice that she never bothered to clarify any rumors. But
she would use facts to prove to you that all these rumors were just
speculation. remarkable.
AT: if you want me to translate those Chinese news articles you have, I'll
be glad to help you. Just scan and email to me, okay?!
AT
IP: 68.126.124.2
Jun 6th, 2004 - 6:17 PM
Re: Article from HKVP Radio dated 5/25/04: Anita Mui, Number one and
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Thank you for your offer.
Could you tell me your e-mail address?
Re: '99 Concert
Re: '99 Concert
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Re: '99 Concert
for professional ethics of media people of HK nowadays, maybe I'm bias.
How about that, ML?
you have a 'secret admirer', Woodstock, I envy you!
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