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I've repeatedly read about Anita Mui's popularity fading & all in this
forum, there's a need for me to retaliate here:
1. Sandra Ng is not more popular than the late Anita Mui
Anita's rise to stardom was much earlier (despite being almost the same
age as Sandra, I guess), "immediately" after winning the singing
contest. She had impressed, stunned & mesmerized her audiences for 2
decades; she has done it all & was very much recognized too; she has
achieved all (both singing & acting recognitions) by 30, she was on
par with "big" celebrities like Jackie Chan, Chow Yuen Fatt,
Alan Tam & Leslie Cheung who're very much her senior and she was
always given "star" treatment. She retired at 28 "a
legend" whereas Sandra (& many other) had only found true fame
way passed 30. It's actually doing Anita much injustice by comparing her
with rising stars as Anita has already risen to the very top, it's just
impossible to reach the "top" again after 2 generations and it's
many times more difficult in making a comeback. Furthermore, Sandra can
only act, her acting achievements may be comparable to Anita's but no one
could come close to Anita's achievements in singing which is far greater.
2. Anita had real talents
Many popular young artists now are forged. Whereas the hugely popular Andy
Lau (pardon me, Andy's fans) is somewhat "forced"; he's not
particularly talented esp in singing & dancing (I find him kinda
struggling on stage) but still manage to capture the hearts of the younger
generation (I must say that he has his charm & is extremely
hardworking). I've accepted the fact that everyone has different taste:
not everyone is able to appreciate vintage wine.
3. She maintained & continually improved her standards
It's very evident in her Fantasy Gig 2002 concert, it's a highly
entertaining show (one of her best despite pushing 40) & well received
too (10+4 consecutive shows, she's still popular!)
In the movies, she did not have as many choices as b4 but nonetheless
managed to impress me one after the other.
Mui Jie has achieved ever shining star status, all the more after her
early departure
... i hope i m not being sarcastic and cynical over here. is sandra up to
par to be compared to mui jie? i dun think so...
Woodstock
IP: 218.103.248.151
Jan 26th, 2004 - 2:50 AM
Re: Anita Mui's NOT a fading star
leelee:
Don't' get upset. None of us will agree to the comment that "Anita
Mui's a fading star". Also none can be compared with her, because
none is up to her level. We all know that Mui can't be replaced. We don't
like to comment about any other stars in this forum, but the one you just
mentioned, can never reach a level of first class actress, no matter how
hard she tries. Anita Mui is always the ?d?? (forgot the English name of
this flower), SN can only be leaves all the time.
It is a pity, in Hong Kong, people like to link popularity with the box
office. But in fact, it doesn't really reflect the true situation. If
Anita Mui was not popular, why every time she appeared in the public, she
would become the focus of media? Why her demise was the news headline for
local news section of all newspapers for several days? Why HK and China
top officials all paid tributes to her? None of past deceased artists has
ever received the honor as high as Mui.
So don't be bothered by how people commented about her popularity. The
status and prestige of her, not only in the entertainment industry, but in
the whole HK society, are prominent and she is highly esteemed worldwide.
Isn't this good enough? She deserves it though!
ML
IP: 203.116.121.224
Jan 26th, 2004 - 3:01 AM
Re: Anita Mui's NOT a fading star
Glad to hear Anita's fans corrected some of the comments in this forum and
speak for her rights.
Tammy
IP: 64.231.45.109
Jan 26th, 2004 - 1:31 PM
Re: Anita Mui's NOT a fading star
i think ?d?? means peony.
I think Anita doesn't need to be compared with other stars Reason being is
that everyone knows how great Anita is and that is why she's so special.
Anita is my favourite artist and she will continue to be my favourite,
forever.
Jack
IP: 64.178.98.10
Jan 26th, 2004 - 2:06 PM
Re: Anita Mui's NOT a fading star
No need to argue. People have bad taste and low standards. They don't know
how to appreciate true talents and art. Too bad for them! We all know
Anita can outperform anyone either singing or acting!
ML
IP: 203.116.123.110
Jan 26th, 2004 - 7:15 PM
Re: Anita Mui's NOT a fading star
Do you all know "Rolex" watch? Have you ever heard or seen in
the TV ads or newspapers publicly promoted "Rolex"? Why? Because
there is no need to do so. It is already a well-known and luxury brand
that everybody envy to have one. "Rolex" has reached the highest
stage that there is NO such word as "OUTDATED" exists. Not many
people can afford to own "Rolex" but almost all people (in the
past, today and future) admire and dream to have one. It's a lasting brand
as it has gone through many 'Blood and Sweat" to earn such a highest
recognition.
Now, compare another brand of watch, let's say "G-Shock". It was
very very popular once that young generations rush to buy one that if one
doesn't have one, one is considered outdated. But now, this brand is no
more popular and considered outdated. It's just a short-term
"IN" trend.
You should imagine and treat Anita Mui as the "Rolex" and should
not be bothered with the word "popular or not popular". Even if
you said she is very popular, some people may not agree.
"Popular" is just a game of entertainment industry.
Anita Mui appreciates other artists and not necessary she/he has talent,
so long as she thinks she/he works hard and with good nature. She
appreciates more if one has both the talent and good nature such as Jacky
Cheung (frankly speaking, the other artist with real talent I admire is
Jacky Cheung). Of course, there shouldn't be a comparison between Anita
with other artists but I think Anita prefers her fans to also appreciate
other's artists' hardworks and we do not wish those with good natures (XYZ
is totally out) to receive the same insults/criticisms as Anita had gone
through since very young. I may not know SN but I think she has taken the
brave move to admit and came to pay last respect to Anita and she was a
"carefree" for many years and only recently, she took the
leading role but she worked pretty hard for the past 20 years and I can
see her acting improved. Of course, you cannot compare her with Anita.
They are totally two different individuals.
Thanks, Tammy, that flower is peony, supposed to be rare but most
beautiful. elegant and splendid.
Mui is a born star, is vintage, a true virtuoso.
FB
IP: 67.118.252.128
Jan 10, 04 - 2:22 PM
Anita's fans are everywhere
"Chinese Ghost Story" was the first of the new Hong Kong films
to come to the USA, and I loved it and wanted to see more. Then
"Rouge" came and showed for a week, I went back and saw it over
and over, something I don't usually do. I was permanently changed by that
film; I began to rent laser discs looking for more Anita, more Chow Yun-Fat,
more Maggie, Carrie Ng, Chiau Sing-Chi, Leslie Cheung, Ng Man-Tat, etc.
Even the minor actors that played the star's mother and father,
shopkeepers, fortune tellers, etc I would recognize, even though I didn't
know their names. I felt like I had gotten married and suddenly I had a
huge new family! I read that Anita was a pop star in real life, the Asian
Madonna. So one day I was at work and I parked the truck in Chinatown (San
Francisco) and I saw in the shop window a poster for the Anita Mui
Farewell Concert at the Masonic Auditorium. It wasn't in the city paper;
if I hadn't happened to go to Chinatown that day I would have completely
missed it. I went and I loved the music. Calling her the Chinese Madonna
was not enough, to me she was the Chinese Pat Benatar, the Chinese Sade,
and the Chinese Siouxsie as well. I was the only non-Chinese person there,
as far as I could tell, and I didn't understand a word anyone said, but it
didn't matter. Since then I have been, for years, listening to Anita's CDs
and of course watching all her films and keeping up with the news from
Vanessa Fan's English web site (gone now). I am in a very weird state of
mind right now, sad of course, but in a strange way I can understand what
Anita means when she tells us to be happy, not cry too much. It's like at
the end of "Rouge" when she tells Alex Man and Emily Chu
"see you in the next life" and walks away. I think that Anita is
a very enlightened person and she has put that knowledge into her
performances for all of us. I know I will think of her and it will help me
when my time comes. I want to say "I love you" and "thank
you" to all the Hong Kong film and entertainment community, you have
given us so much, I think we're all sharing the same feelings now.
Woodstock you a doing a fantastic job with your translations, I can't
thank you enough!
yea-i m so happy that Anita has got some non asian frens too!
yea music is international n somehow its like a common language whereby a
tone or melody can just touch the hearts!
i happened to see her last concert in nov2003--it was way cool n i really
admire her courage n will power to be on stage again-imagine-8 nites
wats a pity we cant be there tomrrow in Hk to bid farewell to her and also
i used her lyrics n song titles to compose an eulogy-its going to be hard
to translate--hopefully u can get some chinese frens to do it for u
god bless!
Woodstock
IP: 218.103.197.24
Jan 12th, 2004 - 6:15 AM
Re: Anita's fans are everywhere
FB, thanks for sharing your story of how you got to know Anita Mui. It
seems most none Chinese knew Anita Mui through her movies first. It is
lucky you discovered soon that she is superb both in singing and in
performing, ohterwise you won't know what you have missed in life.
However it is a pity that she has left us soon, because she could easily
reach another milestone in her movie career. Her talent in that area has
not been fully utilized by any directos yet.
No need to thank me. I will try to catch up my translation as soon as
possible. Just too much news and writings about her every where these
days! Actually we are a bit surprised that she got so many non Chinese
fans.
Susan
IP: 218.102.88.98
Jan 30th, 2004 - 7:15 PM
Re: Anita's fans are everywhere
The time when Anita was touring England, at Hammersmith-London. I think I
was around 15-16 years old and in secondary school. I remembered seeing a
promotional poster up in a music shop down in Gerrand Street, Chinatown.
The price was quite expensive for a poor student like me but I was willing
to save for the tickets. The only problem was the concert was held at (I
think) 1am or 1.30am (I presumed the organisers was adjusting the schedule
for most chinese who finished work late at night), and I actully lived
very far outside chinatown and don't have a car & too young to drive
as well. So I needed to beg my dad or friends to take me there, my dad
told me it's too dangerous to go out late at night and the journey is too
far away (always the same excuse from parents, he's not Anita fan so
little luck from there) my friends don't have cars either. By the end, I
never make it to the concert and regret it ever since. Fortunately I was
able to find a job in Hong Kong back in 1994, and had gone to her concert
at '95, Fantasy Gig '02 and Classic Moment Live concert last year. I will
forever treasured those moments. Funny thing was, the reason for me to
stay in HK was because of Ah Mui and Gor Gor, I told myself that if I find
a job in HK than I can go to their concerts whenever I like. if it's
wasn't for them, I don't think I'll be in HK now. All this are like
distant memories for me now.
Jess
IP: 219.95.207.183
Jan 15, 04 - 7:51 AM
Can you help me clear this up?
SPOILER NOTE: If you are easily offended, now is the time to turn back and
stop reading forth what I will be posting. I mean no harm, I'm just as
confused as the next person (at least, I think I am, being a non-fan but
appreciating her work). I would just like a sincere answer as I come in
peace.
Here I go.
OK, as I've gathered from a short snippet of Jade Starbiz and the posts
I've read here, am I wrong to say that Anita actually CHOSE to NOT undergo
any treatment for her illness, at least, when it was still in early
detection? I saw it on TV that a fan said (my own translation), "Now
that she's gone, no one will protect her like she did for Gor-Gor when he
left. Since she 'chose this path', I hope everyone will respect her and
not print rumours and scathing articles."
I'm confused with that comment. Is it an understood statement that she
didn't want to "heal" herself, that she just let things be
eventhough there's a good chance to (lack of a better word)
"escape" from her disease? What, then, would the difference be
from doing what Gor-Gor did, taking her own life, eventhough it may have
been a slow and sordid one?
I guess it's true, that with Gor-Gor gone, there's nothing much for her to
live for, but I just want to know why death and not life?
That's all I have to say. Hope you can help me see things more clearly.
God bless.
To The Moderator/s: If you deem this is unsuitable, you can, by all means,
delete it. I just want to remind all of you that I mean well, but I just
have this nagging question that needs to be answered, at least for me.
Thank you and I apologize for any feelings hurt for I didn't mean it.
Woodstock
IP: 218.103.206.143
Jan 15th, 2004 - 7:32 PM
Re: Can you help me clear this up?
Jess:
I can see you are quite sincere, and there are maybe lots of people got
confused , as they didn't really have the whole picture or understand Ah
Mui well. I hope I can make it clear but not too long winded.
To start with the easy one first : to explain about the fan's comment
related to Gor Gor. What happened is there was so much rumors about the
cause of Gor Gor's death, though it was clearly declared he died because
of depression, you know suicide casued by depression. But people just made
other unjustified or unverified speculation on the reason of his suicide.
So Ah Mui came out to tell people not to make so much assumption. Now Mui
passed away, then there was so much reporting on how people fight about
her money, who is in confliet with who, how Mui Ma would have press
conference to make public her grudges and etc. These are all rumors caused
by demise of Mui, and if Ah Mui knew, she would not be in peace. That is
why that fan asked everybody to stop fighting, and media should not make
stories on all those things. Definitely not implying anything, but just
protecting Ah Mui from rumor relating to her properties.
It is totally WRONG that she "chose to not undergo any treatment for
her illness". If you go to read Eddie's writing in Minpao weekly 1834
(It is uploaded in web too), you will see the whole story. Mui chose for
Chinese treatment first instead of western treatment. The reasons for her
choice was explained there too: that she trusted more in Chinese
treatment, it is milder and she would suffer less. Then when Chinese
medicine was not that effective she turned to western medicine, but her
condition unfortunately had already deteriorated further.
I will continue to explain further as I have work to do now.
Jack
IP: 64.178.98.10
Jan 15th, 2004 - 9:04 PM
Re: Can you help me clear this up?
Anita's sister had died of cervical cancer as well. Her sister used
western treatment yet it failed to cure her and at the same time seen her
suffered! She wasn't refusing treatment! She just wanted to try a
different method. Anita always believes in facing reality, therefore she
really treasures life!
woodpecker
IP: 202.156.2.210
Jan 16th, 2004 - 12:13 AM
Re: Can you help me clear this up?
insurance procedures and hospital records would show that Anita Mui
followed proper medical advice and treatment. i believe doctors had mapped
all the treatment options and that the reports would become public
property. i think doctors would not discharge Anita from hospital and let
her work if the cancer had spread to her lungs.
Jess
IP: 219.95.207.183
Jan 16th, 2004 - 2:09 AM
Re: Can you help me clear this up?
Thanks for the input and understanding my point of view. I guess I may
have misinterpreted the meaning of "chose this path", because
people don't really CHOOSE to die, you know, and I was taken aback after
hearing that comment. I guess I put 2 and 2 together INcorrectly.
By the way, where is this write-up of Eddie's? Is it in English? If yes,
can you "lead" me there? Thank you.
God bless.
Woodstock
IP: 218.102.177.85
Jan 16th, 2004 - 5:16 AM
Re: Can you help me clear this up?
Jess:
Just to continue from where I stopped above
In case you don't know, Ah Mui's sister died of cancer. (that Jack has
just explained above.) She received western treatment, but she still died
of cancer, never got cured. Ah Mui saw how much she suffered and at the
end still died. If one has such an experience of witnessing a closest
relative died of cancer, how would one make one's choice of treatment at
the time when one was diagnosed with cancer, and how one would think about
cancer? Now it is quite easy for doctors to say, okay at zero stage,
remove the uterus, 100% recovery. Actually is any doctor there in the
market can guarantee that no cancer cells will re-appear again, and would
they tell you honestly what side effect a woman will suffer after having
hysterectomy? (if you have seen a documentary on TV released by America,
you will know what I am talking about. Many women have suffered badly
after hysterectomy, they would rather die if they know their life would be
so miserable after the operation. Okay, of course not 100% will suffer so
badly) Also how a patient's body reacts to treatment is different, some
might recover better, some might not.
Anyhow, when the Chinese treatment didn't work on her, Mui did bravely go
through the western treatment, such as chemo and radio treatment. If you
ever have a chance to enquire around, you would know how painful those
treatment is. Actually, many cancer patients of last stage decide not to
go through any operation or treatment such as chemo and radio , because it
is just a matter of timing.
Cancer of last stage is no cure, what the doctor does is only to prolong
life and try their best to build up immunity for the patient. Even though
Ah Mui knew that her condition not good, but she still went through all
sorts of chemo and radio treatment. When there was any slight hope, she
still wanted to try. This shows her love of life.
Also there is a difference between "no fear of death" and
"choose to die". When Mui knew she would die, she had no fear of
death, that was due to her religion - Buddhism. They believe that we are
just travellers, life in this world is just one stage during the journey
everyone must go through. After death we go to another stage. It is the
soul that will live on forever, our body is just like a hotel where the
soul resides during life. Life in this world is mostly suffering, only the
live of Nirvana is what we should aim for, that is a life with eternal
peace, harmony and happiness. That is the life Ah Mui is having now after
her death. So Mui didn't choose to die, but when the time came, she
accepted death with no fear. This is what Eddie Lau meant their point of
view of life and death.
If you have a copy of Heart of Modern Woman, in that book Mui said, she
often asked herself why she was sent into this world. She must have a duty
to fulfill, once she fulfilled the duty, she would be asked to go. True,
that is why some die old, some die young. All is predetermined. But how
many of us would think that we have a duty to fulfill in this world. At
lease I won't. That is why I am just too ordinary compared with Ah Mui.
Also try to ask yourself, what would you do if you know your days in this
world could be counted already? Ah Mui chose to do charity, initiated the
Project Blossom, the 1:99 concert, the book for the children's cancer fund
and fulfill her wish to have a farewell concert, an TV ad and a farewell
movie (that unfortunately could not be fulfilled) She had made best use of
her limited days. Mui chose to live a quality life by doing meaningful
things, so it doesn't really matter how long or how short. Of course it is
our regret and loss that she left us so fast.
When Mui was having the last concert, she was already at the end of her
life. But she cheated us all , when she was on stage, we didn't notice
that she was a dying person . She gave the best, and most beautiful side
of herself to the people who love her. I like the description of one
critic made about her - Metaphor of Glamour.
By blar bar so much............I'm not defending her for her integrity,
but just want all people to think careful before they make any remarks
about her. Comparing with her, many people should feel so small.
Woodstock
IP: 218.102.177.85
Jan 16th, 2004 - 5:20 AM
Re: Can you help me clear this up?
Jess:
Eddie Lau's article - you can find a link at the index page. It is under
Mingpao Weekly 1834
Robert
IP: 64.163.241.0
Jan 16th, 2004 - 9:13 PM
Re: Can you help me clear this up?
Wow Woodstock.. nicely put! You must be a devoted fan! I wished I had gone
to at least one of her concerts... sigh!
Robert: I just try to analyze everything objectively, because many things
are not just black and white, or can't be concluded as right or
wrong......just a matter of opinion. Anyway, as long as we have faith in
Anita Mui, we won't really be affected by all those rumors spread around
now, especially the casue of her death. The fact is that she died of
cancer, but still so many speculations.....sigh..........media people are
too hungry for money.......pathetic!
Jack
IP: 64.178.98.10
Jan 17th, 2004 - 11:24 PM
Re: Can you help me clear this up?
Just to let you know... Western Treatment is not a comfortable process!
It's painful! I know someone who has received this treatment yet still is
in remission meaning they're not fully cured yet! IT's painful! Hair all
fall off! Loss of appetite! etc. etc. Anita is Brave!!!!!! She tried
EASTERN AND WESTERN TREATMENT!!! She lived such an unfortunate life... may
she rest in peace in heaven.
Jess
IP: 219.95.206.99
Jan 18th, 2004 - 2:55 AM
Re: Can you help me clear this up?
Thank you, woodstock, for taking the time to help me (and all the others)
clear this matter up, hopefully once and for all. I truly appreciate it. I
agree, that it is a great lost to HK, and all Chinese populated countries
with her passing. I am a little sad that I "discovered" her
songs a little too late, but having seen her works and adding what you've
said to it, it truly makes me feel smaller compared to what she has done
for her family, friends and community. And thank you, also, for answering
without animosity the questions I've posed.
I guess you are right, when it comes to cancer, there are really no
"good" ways to go about it. But then again, life is never 100%
perfect, neither are doctors, Western OR Eastern. Seeing as she tried
both, it really shows effort, but sadly, no result.
OK, let's not dwell on sad things. On to happier things, if there's a
"Greatest Hits" album of hers out there right now, I'd buy it,
but sadly, I can't read Chinese. Oh well, time will help me learn it!
*wink*
God bless.
Thousand
IP: 203.116.120.166
Jan 18th, 2004 - 3:08 AM
Re: Can you help me clear this up?
Jess
I was not Chinese educated but I learned Chinese myself through lyrics and
Anita Mui's albums were among them. At that time, all are recorded into
cassettes and no CDs/VCDs. I was determined to learn Chinese because I am
a Chinese origin. Nothing could stop me from learning my own mother
tongue. I believe you could master the language.
Jess
IP: 219.95.206.99
Jan 18th, 2004 - 6:55 AM
Re: Can you help me clear this up?
Thank you, Thousand, for your kind words of encouragement. I am (with
sweat, blood and tears) trying to learn Chinese the "hard" way,
having not been to a Chinese stream school, through books and songs with
lyrics. I can speak Cantonese fairly, but my Mandarin needs help, a LOT of
help. But I'm confident in time to come, I will be able to grasp it.
God bless.
anita's admirer
IP: 220.255.85.254
Feb 1st, 2004 - 8:56 AM
Re: Can you help me clear this up?
Hi,
The reports in my country newspaper has it said that she is aware of her
cancerous condition 2 years ago.
Over here,our govt.has always(and is still)reinforced the campaign of
encouraging women to go for a annual paps-smear test(testing for cancer
cells at the cervix)and memogram(an examination of a women's breast using
x-rays to detect cancer).I was too wondering beyond comprehension why does
she act very much later? She has numerous mega stars buddies and
friends,doesn't anyone know about the feasibility of a 100% cure for
cervical cancer if discover and treated early?
I've read from the extracts of cancer doctors who are expert in this field
that cervical cancer could be 100% cure if detected and treated in the 1st
and earliest stage, and..that the HK docs.did persuade her to seek early
treatment which she refuses.The media even reported that another reason
she rejected western treatment was due to a guy name shum-shum whom she
wanted to bear his baby that account for one speculations why she rejected
treatment.
By the way,i thought her sis Ann, died of ovarian cancer and not cervical?
Whatever it is, i coudn't agree more with the medical professional here
that : what a waste!(not so much of her being a profesional artiste but a
pity that she fail to act IMMEDIATELY during the 1st stage of the serious
disease)
Jack
IP: 64.178.98.10
Feb 1st, 2004 - 10:49 AM
Re: Can you help me clear this up?
anita's admirer, i'm not trying to be rude but you seem to just new here.
we've already discussed this topic and what you said many times a month
ago.
Welcome to you
IP: 203.117.157.136
Feb 1st, 2004 - 2:51 PM
Re: Can you help me clear this up?
Anita's admirer, I totally agree with Jack but kindly do not take it as
though we're angry with you. We're not and we welcome you, new contributor
and reader to this forum. Anyway, could we leave this topic aside as what
Jack said, already a month ago and furthermore, it is a bit sensitive in
view that Anita could not answer us.
Please feel free to open new topic anytime and A BIG WELCOME to our big
family. So don't run away from this forum as we know u're Anita's fan.
Jack
IP: 64.178.98.10
Feb 1st, 2004 - 3:04 PM
Re: Can you help me clear this up?
I apologize if i sound rude but yes i live in a country that encourages
these tests... however, i'm a business major and learn about different
attitudes in different countries... there's really no right and wrong
answers... people in different countries have different views, cultures,
and attitudes about things and we can't force that everyone abide by the
same view... but certainly anita mui did use treatment if u read our
discussion above... now let's put this topic aside... and anita's admirer
welcome to our site
Angel
IP: 81.164.253.195
Feb 1st, 2004 - 4:06 PM
Re: Can you help me clear this up?
Hi Woodstock, thank you very much for your long and clear explanation.
Actually I always feel sad and pain when I see someone is talking about
this topic of Mui Jei. But I understand that Jess just wanted to
understand more clear about it. Sometimes I really don't understand why
some people always like to talk about Mui Jei's illness. There is no point
anymore for talking about it. I really hope Mui Jei can rest in peace...
e-spy
IP: 219.95.15.177
Feb 1st, 2004 - 5:49 PM
Re: Can you help me clear this up?
well ANGEL
when we talked abt these illnesses--we are actually creating some kind of
awareness to those patients and relatives of similar disease-so in a
way--if you take it positvely--this is somewhat educational
New to this...
IP: 142.154.107.96
Feb 1st, 2004 - 11:43 PM
Re: Can you help me clear this up?
I see that you have often reference the Eddie Lau article in Ming Pao, but
where exactly can I read this?
Please kindly share the URL to the page where a copy is uploaded.
Many thanks!
anita's admirer
IP: 219.74.113.236
Feb 1st, 2004 - 11:45 PM
Re: Can you help me clear this up?
To jack,
It may be a reiterations some months ago or an old issues that has been
excavated but I believes the ?beyond comprehension? reasons of individuals
are different. What?s others opinions and understanding is not another and
what?s yours is not mine..Every forumers are entitled to their opinions,
to each his/her own.
I queried the doubt NOT out of undermining mui, her allies/relatives
integrity of addressing her illness but out of ?HEARTACHE? only after
getting an opportunity to watch ?her fantasy gig 2002? vcd which is banned
in my country earlier on.
Yes, once again,I would like to repeat after the oncology professor (and
not any dick tom or harry comments): what a waste!
To angel,
Ppl are not just ?talking? as a ?leisure indulgence? or ?leisure colloquy?
on mui?s illness but like everyone else they are just wondering and asking
out of concern and NOT Out to make a ?boo-has? or out to pinpoint
her.Please do not misconstrued about that.
Like what e-spy has mentioned,the contents of any of the relevant
discussions can served as ?educational? and to what I will perceive it as
?informative? and beneficials to others (probably not you) who?s
interested in understanding more about the different types of
cancer.That?s my ultimate purpose and I am not to interested abt.others.
In conclusion,I come in peace for all mankind and ?welcome to you? don
fret about me running away as I ?ll come and leave as and when I wanted
to.
adieus!
Protest
IP: 203.116.126.219
Feb 2nd, 2004 - 12:45 AM
Re: Can you help me clear this up?
Anita's admirer: I see you are an arrogant talker here but anyway welcome
to give your opinions and I'm sure many of us are willing to debate with
your own philosophy and the way you respect others' opinions. You have
indeed used unique way in expressing your love for Anita but I'll not
doubt your love for her. Different people has different thought.
Speak for Right
IP: 203.116.126.219
Feb 2nd, 2004 - 1:14 AM
Re: Can you help me clear this up?
Are we gynaecologist? No, right? Then we are not eligible enough to
provide the necessary information to serve as educational material to
readers in this forum. This forum is not to talk about medical awareness
and what action should be taken. If you want to promote health awareness
to readers in this forum, please indicate the link will do. We want the
exact detail information from the specialist and not to copy excerpts from
here and there and assume to know what is right and wrong. Medical
information is not simply one page of comment enough to explain and guide
readers, you need also supporting items such as photos, doctor's links
etc. So, you can forget about educating readers in this forum of what is
right and what is wrong.
e-spy
IP: 219.95.10.88
Feb 2nd, 2004 - 3:44 AM
Re: Can you help me clear this up?
aiya--not important now-she is gone-lets close the file!
Angel
IP: 81.164.253.195
Feb 2nd, 2004 - 6:49 AM
Re: Can you help me clear this up?
e-spy, I'm agree for what you said !
KC
IP: 218.103.142.1
Feb 2nd, 2004 - 6:57 AM
Re: Can you help me clear this up?
Agreed. There're so many things that one do not understand in this world.
For me, the most important thing at this time is get over the grief and
try to make the best use of my life. Afterall, we still have today and
every other days to live our lives. And, we're each responsible for the
way we 'run' our lives.
anita's admirer
IP: 220.255.21.172
Feb 2nd, 2004 - 9:27 AM
Re: Can you help me clear this up?
PROTEST WROTE :
"Anita's admirer: I see you are an arrogant talker here but anyway
welcome to give your opinions and I'm sure many of us are willing to
debate with your own philosophy"
I see that you are a bigots yourself too. Whether I am allow to post here
it?s up to the forum founder and noONE has any say beside him/her.I am
really sad that you are here to debate and not for sharing purpose. I am
here to participate positively and certainly not debate. Maybe there are
better forum to debate somewhere in cyber space where you can particpate
as a debator?.Certainly not in my thread.
PROTEST WROTE :
'and the way you respect others' opinions.
Which part did I ever challenge others opinion? maybe you should ?chew ?
and ?understand? radically first the whole post before making a sweeping
statement like that.
You have indeed used unique way in expressing your love for Anita but I'll
not doubt your love for her.
How much luv I?ve for Anita is between she and myself.
I will not doubt your luv for her either.
PROTEST WROTE : -
"Different ppl has different thought."
Yes, i agreed to that very much earlier then you as i've written much
earlier:everyone is entitled to his/her own opinion, to each his/her own.
SPEAK FOR RIGHT WROTE : -
"Are we gynaecologist? No, right? Then we are not eligible enough to
provide the necessary information to serve as educational material to
readers in this forum. This forum is not to talk about medical awareness
and what action should be taken. If you want to promote health awareness
to readers in this forum, please indicate the link will do. We want the
exact detail information from the specialist and not to copy excerpts from
here and there and assume to know what is right and wrong."
First and foremost,a cancer specialist is known as oncologists and not
gynaecologist.
I think if you do?digest? and understand all of my posts you will remember
this part that I?ve posted :
?Yes, once again,I would like to repeat after the oncology professor (AND
NOT ANY DICK TOM OR HARRY COMMENTS):
The extracts are ?interviews? with the oncologist professional and not
from any dick,tom and harry hypo-thesist.Pls.do not jump to baseless
accusations and quick to darts others that ppl are seizing opportunity to
promote ?health? or tried being a guiding leader.Maybe that's constantly
the 'case' in your country but i am glad to say that it's never the
case,never the way in my country.
Medical information is a pcs.of qualified information if it SHOOT STRAIGHT
FROM A MEDICAL PROFESSIONAL I.E THE DOCTORS/SPECIALIST THEMSELVES.(IT CAN
BE IN THE FORM OF EXTRACTS FROM FROM AN INTERVIEWED CLIPPING ANSWERED BY
THE MEDICAL EXPERTS/PROFESSIONALS IN THE RELEVANT FIELD, WHY NOT?.FOR
AUTHENTICITY ABOUT WHAT I?VE SAID ON CERVICAL CANCER,MAYBE YOU CAN ALSO
VERIFY WITH YOUR COUNTRY ONCOLOGISTS THE DEGREE OF TRUTH ABOUT CERVICAL
CANCER : I.E.BEING DETECTED EARLIER AND SEEK TREATMENT EARLY FOR A 100%
CURE???I hope it'LL ease you better that way.And if they confirm it then
you will know whether this are genuine extracts or just from 'mouth-say'.
I do have the hard copy EVIDENCES from the media just last DECEMBER about
what the EXTRACTS OF THESE ONCOLOGISTS COMMENTS AND INTERVIEWS but see no
necessity in providing you the sources as it would only landed in a topic
of ?country name sensitive issues? of war.That account for 1 reason why
I?ve constantly use the noun ࠧcountry' instead of mentioning
directly exactly which country I am posting from. I hope you are sensible
enough to understand that.
SPEAK FOR RIGHT WROTE : -
"Medical information is not simply one page of comment enough to
explain and guide readers, you need also supporting items such as photos,
doctor's links etc. So, you can forget about educating readers in this
forum of what is right and what is wrong."
Nobody is interested in guiding readers on anything.What i've said are
just evidences of proof
piblished here in our national paper and to reiterate again not from any
dick,tom or harry.We are just touching on the issues of the disease Anita
has contracted and merely engage here as a light-chat of what would happen
if she did..or she doesn?t.(NOBODY MENTIONED THAT SHE?S RIGHT OR WRONG IN
HER DECISION)
Don't be so defensive about it. If you think I am trying to guide readers
with an ulterior motive then I am sorry that no one can stop you from your
very own mind thinking because it?s your feeling and head not mine.
So commenting that I can forget about educating readers in this forum is
just purely your very own 'enthusiastic mis-interpretations'to pick a
row?you are just giving me the impression that way.
In conclusion,I hope i am speaking to the same person and not one with
multiple identities behind ONE pseudonym as logging in here are just being
too easily accesible.
Jack
IP: 64.178.98.10
Feb 2nd, 2004 - 12:36 PM
Re: Can you help me clear this up?
we should all stop being judgamental ... i myself included, fine let's
discuss about this... i'm sure anita's not stupid ... i'm sure she knows
about cancer as her sister died and her close friend roman tam died ...
but we don't know what's in her mind - we are only her fans and we can't
ask answered unanswered questions - maybe in the future there'll be an
biography about her then we'll know about her about how much she's been
through - anyone else?
cremePUFF
IP: 64.231.133.164
Feb 2nd, 2004 - 2:30 PM
Re: Can you help me clear this up?
You know what ppl? there's never gonna be a TRUE answer to all the
questions u are wondering. No one knows the answers. Only Anita will know.
So there's really know point in pondering on and on about this. What we
can do is try and pray for her and/or think good thoughts.
anita's admirer
IP: 220.255.64.170
Feb 2nd, 2004 - 8:56 PM
Re: Can you help me clear this up?
Hi jack,
well, my stance is still-->At the end of the day,whatever her decision
her life is, it's HERS and not ours.
i hope to be particpating around,see ya guys!
anita's admirer
IP: 220.255.64.170
Feb 2nd, 2004 - 8:56 PM
Re: Can you help me clear this up?
Hi,
well, my stance is still-->At the end of the day,whatever her decision
her life is, it's HERS and not ours.
i hope to be particpating around,see ya guys!
anita's admirer
IP: 220.255.64.170
Feb 2nd, 2004 - 8:58 PM
Re: Can you help me clear this up?
oops...It should be written this way :
i hope to be participating around if the founder allows me or not it
doesn't matter to me too.
Woodstock
IP: 218.103.251.233
Feb 3rd, 2004 - 2:28 AM
Re: Can you help me clear this up?
It seems you are having a party here, so hilarious.... but with my limited
English, really too afraid to participate in your debate, discussion or
whatever, unless with a dictionary, as any minute I might get shot with a
wrong terminology
Now with your "Cease Fire", I dare say a few words.
anita's admirer: you are new here and you are welcome. Actually since Mui
passed away, there have been so many different versions on the history of
her illness given by media people. We don't even know which is true. Also
Mui is gone, she can't verify for us. Even if she is still alive, I don't
think she would tell us the truth, if she wants she would already do so,
because after all she is not obliged to make this public, right? So, in
general, we all agreed to respect her decision regarding her treatment and
would not discuss about that in both our forums anymore. It is really a
waste of time. Hope you understand why there is "protest" from
different fans.
Just for your information, Professor Hextan Ngan Yeung-sheung, professor
of obstetrics and gynecology at the University of Hong Kong said patients
with early stage of cervical cancer has a 90% of recovery with treatment
(quoted from SCMP of 1/31/03), while the professor you mentioned said
100%. So there is really not a rule of thumb. Also each individual will
actually react to treatment differently.
e-spy: ironically there is a positive message brought by the demise of Mui.
It has raised public awareness of cervical cancer here in HK. The queue
for check up at Family Planning Association, the major organization
providing the medical test, is already up to the 3rd quarter of 2004.
New to this: link to Eddie Lau's article can be found at the index page,
Mingpao Weekly 1834.
Now just want to tell you something about Mui. She hated and I believe she
still hates fans to fight in the forum. There was a group fought so much
in the forum in the year before last. Finally they got reprimanded 3 times
during her birthday party 2002. She was really not happy during that
party. Anyway, I'm happy to see you people stopped those heated
"debate" before Snoopy and I come to stop you. After all I can
see all of you are a group of mature, sensible and well educated fans. As
Mui always said it is fate to bring us together, so enjoy the friendship,
okay?!
Cheers to you all!
anita's admirer
IP: 220.255.64.170
Feb 3rd, 2004 - 2:31 AM
Re: Can you help me clear this up?
Good evening woodstock,
Actually we are not really having a 'fight' here.I would prefer to put it
as just a light afternoon
chat.You are right, i am not a teeny bopper as this is normally how a
typical teeny bopper fan would
behave while fisting for their idol.Like you have phrase it :We are
afterall,well-educated matured adults.I am normally not interested in
showbiz but Mui's different for some reasons.
The reason i have cited a 100% cure of the cervical
cancer because over here,there are women who are cure
totally and lead a normal live i.e.after discovered and treated early.I've
to thank my country government for it's effort to create awareness.Or
not,there's a 90% cure over your side and that's better than zilch and
death.The crux of the whole message is still:Regardless of percentage,it's
curable when discovered and treated early.
I believe i will enjoy this site, adieus!
Angel
IP: 81.164.253.195
Feb 3rd, 2004 - 1:57 PM
Re: Can you help me clear this up?
Woodstock, you are right, even Mui Jei is passed away, I don't want to
make her sad...and thanks for reminding everyone what Mui Jei said about
"fate bring us together", we really need to treasure everyone
around us, and special in this forum. It's because Mui Jei, I'm here and
because of Mui Jei, I can read so many "touching" words from
Woodstock, I really thank Mui Jei very much and also I'm very happy to
know Woodstock, I really like for what you always write.
why why must tell why
IP: 202.156.54.165
Feb 4th, 2004 - 1:17 AM
Re: Can you help me clear this up?
i think it is fair for anita's admirer to let us know that some medical
specialist have been quoted by some major news agency. whether you agree
with the opinion quoted is another matter.
personally i think "100% cure" is questionable , example
extraction of a tooth is not a 100% cure for the decayed tooth, but an
elimination of the source of toothache pain.
by the way, i am no medical expert so i won't be suprised to read of
someone telling me to go post somewhere else.
thanks for reading anyway.
anita's admirer
IP: 219.74.115.127
Feb 4th, 2004 - 8:15 AM
Re: Can you help me clear this up?
wow..wow!thought it suppose to be a closed thread but it's still on-going,
maybe woodstock/casper should just lock this topic as it is really getting
very very stale and b..o..r..e....d!
WHY WHY WROTE:
i think it is fair for anita's admirer to let us know that some medical
specialist have been quoted by some major news agency. whether you agree
with the opinion quoted is another matter.
personally i think "100% cure" is questionable , example
extraction of a tooth is not a 100% cure for the decayed tooth, but an
elimination of the source of toothache pain.
by the way, i am no medical expert so i won't be suprised to read of
someone telling me to go post somewhere else.
thanks for reading anyway.
If you follow through the thread, you shld.have understood earlier that
the subject of cervical cancer was raised out of a light-chat afternoon
colloquy. Anyway, Woodstock the overall
SUPER-INTENDENT had replied and I?ve answered.That?s suffice to call for a
grand Finale chapter closed.
Oh..yes,it?s a BIG YAWN if you have be so ?lor-lor-sor-sor?(Cantonese,
English->long-winded) if you are just interested to blow a topic outta
proportion or find something to peck at to get the day going?
As I?ve mentioned : answers quoted about the topic of cervical cancer by
the medical professionals(AND NOT ANY DICK TOM AND HARRY) I do not know
whether you know the meaning of ?dick,tom,harry?.Incase you don?t it mean
ah g ah joe(a reknown Cantonese phrase in hk) If you think acceding to
medical professionals advise are just another matter,then infuture when
you are not feeling too-well you can seek a voodoos or something else
beyond a doctor for a opinion you deem fit?maybe they are more qualified
then a proven medical expert huh?
For specialization in dental problems,I think you?ve to REFER TO THE RIGHT
CHANNEL and that is A DENTIST who?s the appropriate medical professionals
to answers all your needs and dental related questions.
Sure,once again, if you don?t like what I?ve posted,
you shld. start a topic all by yourself in your own thread. Nobody said it
better then yourself.
WHY WHY TELL ME WHY WROTE :
THANKS FOR READING ANYWAY.
You are most welcome.
why why you so lor sor
IP: 202.156.59.121
Feb 4th, 2004 - 10:20 AM
Re: Can you help me clear this up?
anita's admirer labelled my contribution as "BIG YAWN" and
"or lor sor sor" when i was saying i appreciate his posting to
let ppl know about medical opinions quoted in mass media.
he said "THE OVERALL SUPERINTENDENT" declared "CLOSED
THREAD WITH GRAND FINALE CHAPTER CLOSED", yet he felt he should
volunteer his grand reply which seemed to contain more lines than my
posting.
perhaps he thought it an opportunity to gain popularity, and to remind
people that he is able to teach us the meaning of "dick tom harry"
while at the time telling me to GO ELSEWHERE for dental specialization.
anita's admirer, thanks for your grand reply.
anita's admirer
IP: 220.255.67.154
Feb 4th, 2004 - 9:30 PM
Re: Can you help me clear this up?
lor lor sor sor wrote: -
he said "THE OVERALL SUPERINTENDENT" declared "CLOSED
THREAD WITH GRAND FINALE CHAPTER CLOSED",
i think you are trying to create a row between me and the superinintendent
by deliberately mis-quoting my
replies.If you have difficulties comprehending simple english or having
difficulties in concentrating and understanding through your celebral, the
correct venue is a
sycologists clinic.
lor lor sor sor wrote :
"perhaps he thought it an opportunity to gain popularity"
why,you are desperade for fame?hehehe!then you you should join the
Hollywood or hong kong showbiz.
lor lor sor sor wrote :-
anita's admirer, thanks for your grand reply.
I told you, you are most welcome.
To Anita Mui?s and the founder of this site(is it casper or Woodstock?): -
OUT OF RESPECT,I apologise for creating some
sensation in Anita's territory and please excuse me as I?ve to clear the
air before some some others continue to create topic for ?publicity
stunts?.
anita's admirer
IP: 220.255.67.154
Feb 4th, 2004 - 9:54 PM
Re: Can you help me clear this up?
FOR THE RESPECT OF THE LATE ANITA, PLEASE STOP FROM POSTING ANYMORE
UNBENEFICIAL POSTS IF YOU ARE HEADING TO A COMMON DESTINATION LIKE
EVERYONE ELSE HERE.
THANK YOU.
Jess
IP: 218.208.227.20
Feb 5th, 2004 - 7:29 AM
OK, that's it
I started this thread just to get some answers and that's exactly what I
got and I'm grateful for the time spent in answering my questions. I,
however, did NOT start this thread to cause any "bust-up"
between fans. So, I hope, that whoever's monitoring this forum should just
delete this thread as soon as they can, for it is not worth carrying on.
I'm sure "C'est La Vie!" is well known to people as meaning
"That's Life!" and that's exactly what it is. Life has its good
and bad, ups and downs, rights and wrongs. It is not for us to judge what
happens in other people's lives.
When I started this thread, I just had the intention to clarify what's
going on, not to judge what has happened. Besides, all that has happened
are in the past. Look to the future to find better things ahead. And yes,
Anita is not here to justify it, neither does she NEED to justify it, if
at all.
So, let it go, please?
why why must tell why
IP: 202.156.59.121
Feb 5th, 2004 - 8:20 AM
Re: Can you help me clear this up?
#########
let's learn from the summary of the posts, please read the original
messages for full details.
#########
(1) Jess sincerely wished to clear this up, as she
"...gathered from Jade Starbiz and the posts...that Anita actually
CHOSE to NOT undergo any treatment...".
jess said if Moderator deemed this "NOT undergo" topic
unsuitable, can have it deleted.
(2) Woodstock responded : anita did go for treatment, chinese medical
treatment and her reasons why can be read at Minpao weekly 1834.
(3) Jack : anita's sis died of cancer too
(4) woodpecker : insurance firms would ensure anita had treatment
(5) Jess : thanks for input
(6) Woodstock : pain is a key factor - some can bear, others
could not. ...some cervical cancer patients recover (after removal of
uterus) but do not mean that doctors can guarantee ther would be no
recurrence.
(6) Woodstock's important reminder : Anita Mui had no fear of death. and
Anita did not choose to die.
(7) Woodstock :
(
robert
(9) Woodstock :
(10)Jack : "She tried EASTERN AND WESTERN TREATMENT!!!"
(11)Jess : "Seeing as she tried both, it really shows effort, but
sadly, no result."
(12)Thousand :
(13)Jess :
#########
here anita's admirer posted some points to look out for
#########
(14)
anita's admirer : "my country newspaper said she is aware of her
cancerous condition 2 years ago."
anita's admirer : "our govt.has always(and is still reinforced the
campaign..."
anita's admirer : "I was too wondering beyond comprehension why does
she act very much later?"
anita's admirer : "mega stars buddies and friends, doesn't anyone
know about the feasibility of a 100% cure for cervical cancer..."?
anita's admirer : "read from reports....cancer doctors who are expert
in this field that cervical cancer could be 100% cure if ........."
anita's admirer : "and..that the HK docs.did persuade her to seek
early treatment which she refuses"
anita's admirer : "i coudn't agree more with the medical professional
here" (the country anita's admirer is from)
#########
(15)Jack (to anita's admirer) : "i'm not trying to be rude but you
seem to just new here. we've already discussed this topic and what you
said many times a month ago."
(16)Welcome to you (to anita's admirer) : "...totally agree with
Jack...do not take it as though we're angry with you. ...could we leave
this topic aside, already a month...it is a bit sensitive...Anita could
not answer us.
Please feel free to open new topic anytime..."
(17)Jack :"certainly anita mui did use treatment... now let's put
this topic aside... "
(1
Angel :"I understand Jess just wanted to understand more about
it."
(19)e-spy :talking"...abt these illnesses--creating some kind of
awareness to patients and relatives-so in a way--is educational"
(20)New to this... :
#########
(21)
anita's admirer : "To jack,What?s others opinions and understanding
is not another and what?s yours is not mine.."
anita's admirer : "Every forumers are entitled to their opinions, to
each his/her own."
anita's admirer : "...once again,I would like to repeat after the
oncology professor (and not any dick tom or harry comments)..."
anita's admirer : "...I ?ll come and leave as and when I wanted
to."
#########
(22)Protest (to anita's admirer) : "...I see you are an arrogant
talker here but anyway welcome to give your opinions ... many of us
willing to debate with your own philosophy..."
(23)Speak for Right :"Are we gynaecologist? No, right? We want exact
detail information from the specialist and not copy excerpts from here and
there and assume what is right and wrong..."
(24)e-spy :
(25)Angel :
(26)KC :
#########
(27)
anita's admirer (to PROTEST):"I see that you are a bigots. Whether I
am allow to post (is) up to the forum founder...
anita's admirer (to PROTEST):"...I am really sad that you are
here.... Maybe there are forum...somewhere in cyber space where you can
particpate. Certainly not in my thread."
anita's admirer (to PROTEST):"...maybe you should ?chew ? and
?understand? radically first the whole post before making a
...statement...."
anita's admirer :" as i've written - everyone is entitled to his/her
own opinion, to each his/her own."
anita's admirer (to SPEAK FOR RIGHT) : "First and foremost,a cancer
specialist ..oncologists and notgynaecologist."
anita's admirer (to SPEAK FOR RIGHT) :"...once again,..repeat after
the oncology professor (AND NOT ANY DICK TOM OR HARRY COMMENTS)
...extracts are ?interviews? with the oncologist professional... not from
any dick,tom and harry hypo-thesist."
Maybe that's constantly the 'case' in your country but i am glad to say
that it's never the case,never the way in my country."
anita's admirer (to SPEAK FOR RIGHT) : "...AUTHENTICITY ABOUT WHAT
I?VE SAID ON CERVICAL CANCER,.. TRUTH ABOUT CERVICAL CANCER : I.E.BEING
DETECTED EARLIER AND SEEK TREATMENT EARLY FOR A 100% CURE..."
anita's admirer (to SPEAK FOR RIGHT) : "Nobody is interested in
guiding readers..."
anita's admirer (to SPEAK FOR RIGHT) :"...proof piblished here in our
national paper ...again not from any dick,tom or harry. ...is just purely
your very own 'enthusiastic mis-interpretations' ...to pick a row?you are
just giving me the impression that way."
#########
(2
Jack : "...fine let's discuss about this... i'm sure anita's not
stupid ...she knows about cancer as her sister and her close friend roman
tam died...we fans can't...ask answered unanswered questions..."
(29)cremePUFF :"...pray..."
#########
(30)anita's admirer (to jack) : "well, my stance is still-->At the
end of the day,whatever her decision her life is, it's HERS and not ours.
i hope to be particpating around,see ya guys!"
(31)anita's admirer :"Hi, well, my stance is still-->At the end of
the day,whatever her decision her life is, it's HERS and not ours. i hope
to be particpating around,see ya guys!"
(32)anita's admirer :"oops...It should be written this way : i hope
to be participating around if the founder allows me or not it doesn't
matter to me too."
#########
(33)woodstock (to anita's admirer) :"...you are new here...
...Mui is gone, she can't verify for us. Even if... alive... she is not
obliged to... So...do... not discuss about that in our forums... Hope you
understand why there is "protest" from different fans.
For your information, Professor Hextan Ngan Yeung-sheung of University of
Hong Kong said patients with early stage of cervical cancer has a 90%
(chance) of recovery with treatment (quoted from SCMP of 1/31/03), while
the professor you mentioned said 100%. ...not a rule of
thumb...individuals react...differently.
demise of Mui...has raised public awareness of cervical cancer here in HK.
Now just want to tell you something...Mui...hated...and still hates fans
to fight in forum. happy to see you people stopped those heated
"debate" before Snoopy and I come to stop you..."
#########
(34)
anita's admirer (to woodstock):
"...i am not a teeny bopper...normally how a typical
teeny bopper fan would behave while fisting for their idol. ...we
are...well-educated matured adults.
...i have cited 100% cure of cervical cancer because over here, there are
women who are cure totally and lead a normal live i.e.after discovered and
treated early.
...I've to thank my country government for it's effort
...there's a 90% cure over your side and that's better than zilch and
death."
#########
(35)Angel :
#########
this is my post as i wanted to show i appreciated anita's admirer citing
to us the "100% cure of cervical cancer quoted in media" and to
submit my opinion about "100% cure" as questionable.
(36)why why must tell why : "i think it is fair for anita's admirer
to let us know that some medical specialist have been quoted by some major
news agency. whether you agree with the opinion quoted is another matter.
personally i think "100% cure" is questionable , example
extraction of a tooth is not a 100% cure for the decayed tooth, but an
elimination of the source of toothache pain. by the way, i am no medical
expert so i won't be suprised toread of someone telling me to go post
somewhere else. thanks for reading anyway."
#########
and for my simple 5-line message of appreciation, i get this in return
(37)
anita's admirer :
"... BIG YAWN if you have be so ?lor-lor-sor-sor?(Cantonese,
English->long-winded)"
"...you are just interested to blow a topic outta proportion..."
"As I?ve mentioned : by medical professionals(AND NOT ANY DICK TOM
AND HARRY)..."
"I do not know whether you know the meaning of dick,tom,harry?.Incase
you don?t it mean ah g ah joe..."
"infuture when you are not feeling too-well you can seek a voodoos or
something else beyond a doctor ..."
"For specialization...problems,I think you?ve to REFER TO THE RIGHT
CHANNEL....who?s the appropriate medical professionals to answers all
your..."
"Sure,once again, if you don?t like what I?ve posted, you shld. start
a topic all by yourself in your own thread."
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in response i hinted again appreciattion of his letting us
know of some medical opinion quoted in the media. also mentioned his
teaching us meaning of "... ANY DICK TOM AND HARRY" and telling
people who illustrated a point with an example to go elsewhere.
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it seemed to me he was so sure of his expert level of english and medical
advisory, and so
(3
anita's admirer said to me : "If you have difficulties comprehending
simple english or having difficulties in concentrating and understanding
through your celebral, the correct venue is a sycologists clinic."
>
was he trying to spell psycho? is he telling me to go seek a
psycho treatment instead of learning more about anita mui at this website?
>
next, he claimed to the Founders that he is clearing the air
before others continue for "publicity stunts".
>
thus he wrote :
(3
anita's admirer : "OUT OF RESPECT,I apologise for creating some
sensation in Anita's territory and please excuse me as I?ve to clear the
air before some some others continue to create topic for ?publicity
stunts?".
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next he was hinting that his posts are the beneficial ones
and others should stop their "UNBENEFICIAL POSTS"?
(39)anita's admirer : "...STOP POSTING ANYMORE UNBENEFICIAL POSTS IF
YOU ARE HEADING TO A COMMON DESTINATION LIKE EVERYONE ELSE HERE."
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the postings speak for themselves.
international fan
IP: 220.255.21.59
Feb 9th, 2004 - 9:12 AM
Re: Can you help me clear this up?
To lor lor sor sor,
i guess when ppl does apologise out of respect for mui jie,..u should also
be automative and be respectful for her.Afterall this site has been
dedicated to her and it's HER SITE not YOURS.
So if you are here as a troublemaker then as a genuine mui's fan i really
suggest that Woodstock have you eradicated for the peace of mui's and the
interest of other users.Or at least, i think woodstock should locked this
topic now.
Forum owner, I think it?s time for you to take action.Don?t you have
anything to do or say about it?
Woodstock
IP: 218.103.250.130
Feb 9th, 2004 - 9:42 PM
Re: Can you help me clear this up?
When you look around, you will really find that there are all kinds of
people, even under this thread. Really funny. When all people already
"Cease Fire",maybe about 4-5 days, then suddenly pop out this
"international fan" telling this one to do this and that one to
do that.......anyway, we will do according to our principle.
As I already mentioned before this is an open forum, we don't like to
delete any messages unless it is desperately necessary, consequently it
really requires a lot of our tolerance. We like to respect all people who
left messages here, but seems that I must remind you that one must respect
oneself first if one wants others to respect him. Even we have freedom of
speech here , but just like in any democratic country there is an
invisible guideline
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sycologists clinic.
robert